Jacks for 80 series

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 17:24
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Hi all,
As I continue my quest to kit out my 80 series, I'm up to jacks.
Obviously got the standard one that came with car.
Anyone on here got any thoughts on whether it is worth upgrading?
Also, what about those inflatable jacks that run off the exhaust, do they come in handy?
Cheers,
Scotty
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Reply By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:15

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:15
Scotty , just a word of warning

Hi lift jacks & exaust jacks are fantastic tools in the right hands for the right jobs , but lethal weponds in the wrong hands . They can kill you in the blink of an eye.

High lift jacks , you need to have mounting points on the car to use , if you dont have a steel front or rear bar, dont bother. They are also used as pulling tools and clamps . I even use mine to break tyre beeds. The air jack is mainly used in sandy conditions , but will blow quickly if they touch a sharp object or are over filled.

I only use my high lift jack to support some of the weight in the vehicle and use the standard jack to remove a tyre .

Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:15

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:15
PS there is a fantastic hi lift jack for sale in the EO trader , but it comes with a 80 series lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:01

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:01
I strongly disagree Jacking from the bars fron and rear mean you have to lift the suspension before the wheel which is usually 30+ cm ie 1/3 of the jack BEFORE you get started lifting the wheel. this adds to the unsafe factor. Hub lifters are a far better option as you can lift the wheel at lower working levels on the jack. also when hung up you can get more lift than with an ordinary hi lift with hublifters than jacking points. My 80 has jacking points but i cant see my self ever using them
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:24

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:24
Do you like to just disagree , or do you sometimes read the reply first

I said , I only take up the weight of the vehicle . This means , just that . NO LIFTING OFF THE GROUND. Just supporting the weight , then I use my NORMAL jack.

Hub lifters are useless if you are trying to remove the wheel

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:55

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:55
Hub lifters are useless if trying to change a wheel but in my opinion a high lift should not be used to change a wheel, That is what the factory jack is for. As for taking weight off the vehicle with the hi lift I am unsure why you would muck around with an extra jack for what is generally a straight forward exercise with the factory jack.
My strong disagreement was to your comment that you need jacking points on your bars which in my experience are a poor substitute for hublifters. My opinion is that hi lifts while they do have other uses are primarily a recovery tool
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:59

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:59
if you ran a standard weight vehicle i could agree , but it is safer to use it as support . Also I run deap dish alloys that a hug brace wont fit on
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:02

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:02
Is your car standard davoe ? a standard Jack was made to lift your vehicle when standard

extra weight from accesories always alters things . so do bigger tires and body/spring lifts
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Reply By: scottywiper - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:22

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 18:22
Thanks for that.
Do a fair bit of sand driving, so maybe the exhaust jack might come in handy.
Sounds like I'm better off leaving the hi-lift alone.
Cheers,
Scotty
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:57

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 19:57
Hi
I like high lifts because sometimes you need then...like if your stuck in some ruts and on your diffs, or if you have a extreme lift etc.
A shovel can help you get that bottle jack under the diff and makes a good bedding plate
An exhaust jack is good in sand and great with the tide coming in :-)
Each to their own....the highlift is dangerous if you are not careful with it...seen one used when a cruiser was stuck in ruts with a flat tyre...dont know how he would have got out of there in one piece without one.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:04

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 20:04
The standard jack is only about 1700kgs, and will really struggle under the rear axle of a loaded Criuiser.

I've had the airbag jack, and consider it pretty useless for lots of reasons. They are also very unstable.

You can upgrade to a hydraulic jack, but you need to be sure that it can get low enough to get under the axle when the tyre is flat. A two stage squat jack may be the best option here, but will cost a bit more.

I use a high lift jack as my backup, and have 4 purpose-built hi-lift jackpoints, to overcome the stability problem. As it lifts up the chassis, it also very useful if you had to repair springs/suspension, but you need to thoroughly stabilise it before doing such repairs (I also take an axle stand).

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:03
thanks Phil

some here with some common sence
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:19

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:19
The cruiser in the picture below gets around well above The standard gvm and has had aftermarket springs from new upgrading the gvm. I changed many tyres on this or simular vehicles in different terrain and Never used anything but the standard jack with no worries. In certain situations it may be an advantage to use a hi lift for tyre changing but I am yet to see it. Generally I use hi lifts for purposes simular to that shown below
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:25

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:25
yes i would agree that it looks pretty standard , so in your case a standard jack would be ok

cheers
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:15

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 21:15
!MPG:14!
Hi lift jack being used with hublifter.L/H/R wheel already has been jacked up and supported by branches
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Reply By: Hairy - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:11

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:11
There is absolutely nothing wrong with high-lifts and I wouldnt go anywhere without mine, never had trouble with it either. Make some good front and rear jacking points.
Just use your brains!!!!!
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