Convert manualgearbox to auto operation without removing gearbox

Submitted: Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:03
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Some time ago I found a company in Perth who imported a device which would depress the clutch via a switch on the gear stick so that you did not have to use your left foot. I received some paperwork through the mail but have misplaced it(read thrown out with other rubbish).

Question 1 Does anyone know of such a company and what their name is?

Question 2 Can anyone suggest a method to fascilitate something like this.

This would be the easier option than to convert to an automatic gearbox
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:10

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:10
Speak to companies that do conversions for disabled drivers... they do this sorta stuff.

Talking to a mate that has done the conversion to auto, if it comes out of a diesel going into a diesel, its a straight swap.... if it comes out of petrol into diesel, its not as much fun.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:17

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:17
Thanks mate. I am now looking for the easier option.
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Follow Up By: banjodog - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:25

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:25
A cheap and easy option is to ride shotgun - someone else can do the gear changes.

Just joking - you bring tears to my eyes reading about your adventures posted over the last few days - you're actually out there doing it.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:54

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:54
banjodog.......................

One night late we were sitting 3 up front in an Alfa Romeo motoring along a back road at a speed.

The back seat was full of booze.
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The skirt was working the clutch, while I, the passenger, was working the gear lever.

The driver got suspicious and went for the the gear lever as well

Just at that moment a cattle grid came up

We missed the grid but took the closed gate out next to it

Luckily we were too drunk to be injured

The Alfa was rooted

We stayed there drinking the contents of the backseat till help arrived the following day

PS This was in the 1960's before laws were heard of :o)
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Follow Up By: banjodog - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:00

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:00
Excuse me while I go and wipe my eyes again - from laughter!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:01

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:01
actually, i was in a shop today that has a GQ auto up the back from a MANUAL conversion, but its out of a petrol (dude had 350 fitted, 4 days later rolled it.... he bought a second GQ to swap the goodies over)..

I'll ask if ya like.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:46

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:46
dirty ole man!
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:48

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:48
Thanks Trucky

If you see something let me know as if it isn't too complicated I can get my local mechanic to do the job.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:13

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:13
Hey Nudie I was 20 at the time. Come to think of it...you werent born then, what? eh? Or you were very little.................
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 20:35

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 20:35
20 eh? and your Dad never taught you how to behave in front of women....hell i couldnt even go out with them unless I polished my shoes....still trying to figure why that was so my self

probably very little willem....maybe a twinkle in me Dads eye hehehe
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Reply By: pmacks - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:47

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:47
hey willem,
The company that does most of the work for the disabled drivers is PARRAQUAD INDUSTRIES and they can fit or fabricate anything to make life easier but from memory you need a referal from your doctor. They are worth while calling as they would no of any thing new or wiz bang on the market and as most of the employees are disabled they have a vested interest in the technology.
No i do not work for them i use to be a supplier to the NSW section and have always been amazed at the work they do
Hope this helps
Pmacks
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:59

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 16:59
Thanks Pmacks Will follow that lead up
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Reply By: Member - John C (QLD) - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:07

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:07
Willem,

You been doing too many gear changes on those trips of yours? :-)
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:45

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 17:45
John

Yes your are right and I think that one of the screws which holds the prosthesis in my leg to the bone, has come loose because the the leg is aching a bit. There is no easy way(or any way for that matter) to fix it.

So I am looking for easy alternatives.

First up is a clutch conversion...maybe 2 grand
Second is a gearbox conversion......maybe 6 grand
Third is a replacement vehicle..........maybe 20 grand

I like my old GQ and don't really want to part with it.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 21:40

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 21:40
Willem,
... if your being charged $6k for gearbox conversion something is radically wrong - or is that including a fully reco'd box and all the new trims??

replacing clutch would be dead money... but cheaper than the others...
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 18:38

Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 18:38
Trucky

No I took that amopunt out of the air. Spoke to a bloke who said he would give a guarantee on a box for $4000. The rest I estimated.

But after receiving my rates notice today I think that all ideas will have to be shelved for a while.
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Follow Up By: Member - John C (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 19:50

Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 19:50
Spoke to a couple of friends who have a prosthesis to see what they do, but both drives an automatic, and not keen 4wders.
Does seem some good ideas on this post though.

And you do get attached to your car after spending a few years setting them up.
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Reply By: fatz - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:03

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:03
Willem, I did this about twenty years ago on a mates car and it was fairly crude. He was injured in an accident and we set it up to do him for a couple of weeks while he recovered. we discovered afterwards that he used if for about two years.
I'm not sure how it would go off road, but reckon if it was installed properly it would be allright.
We used a "throw out" solanoid off a starter motor to operate the clutch, connected through a relay to a pushbutton on the top of the gearstick. Fitting it was trickey as we had to make up a couple of brackets and get it in the right place to throw out far enough. Mind you we did all this in a night with a slab of cans under our belt.
Might work for you, and is a cheap option if you know someone who is handy with a welder.

Mick
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:24

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 18:24
Thanks Mick. I have heard of that method. It is definitely an option to look at.

Yes I always make sure I know someone with a Stick or Mig welder :o)
And I butter them up regularly!

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Reply By: Michael Carey - Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 19:27

Monday, Jul 18, 2005 at 19:27
I used to go out with an amputee a while ago. She used to change gears in my old Hilux without the clutch! She had a real knack of sliding them in smoothly, adjusting the engine revs to match, but the starts and stops were a bit scary!
Her father made a clutch lever for an old car that was on the gear shift. She handled this quite well too, but bought an auto when she got a well paying job.
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Reply By: imr700x - Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 14:29

Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 14:29
G'day Willem
I know that this is a little late but I used to do those sort of conversions years ago in NZ for para's when auto's were really thin on the ground and extremely expensive. I used to convert the clutch throw out to an hydraulic slave cylinder, ifn it wasn't already , then used a VH 40 remote brake booster connected to the slave cylinder to operate the clutch throwout. A starter solenoid connected to the input side of the master cylinder then had enough power to operate even the heaviest of clutchs. The solenoid was operated from a switch on the top of the gear lever, just a simple push button that disengaged the clutch as soon as you put your hand on it. Also, sometimes , depending on the usage I used to incorporate a flow control constrictor to regulate how fast the the clutch engaged, good for start ups . All this work can be done with the average tools in most 4x4 owners sheds. Hope this can be of some help

Dennis
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 18:48

Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 18:48
Thanks for your imput, Dennis. I am taking everything on board and will look at the options and ideas soon. The good thing about your system is that you can still operate the clutch manually
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