Trailers dumped in the Simpson

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 22:46

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Member - Phil G (SA)

Lots of talk at the moment about taking trailers into the Simpson. But I was surprised to see two dumped trailers a few weeks ago.

One was on the very western end of the WAA Line west of the Lake with a busted draw bar; the other was on the K1 Line.

I guess thats another risk you take.

Its OK if everything is well setup, but often that not the case, and the person behind the wheel is oblivious to how much damage all those "whoopsy doos" do to a trailer.

I gather theres big fines for dumping trailers.

Cheers
Phil

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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 23:32

Tuesday, Jul 19, 2005 at 23:32

Phil

We also saw One on the side of the french line and also saw another nissan narva with the top of the CT in the back. There were also a group of 3 all towing CT's behind us, One of the broke some pins off their CT.

Crazie

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:35

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:35

Hi Crazie,

Yeah, pity to have the desert getting littered by dead trailers. Seems like theres an epidemic of them at the moment.

I guess the rule is the same for any other rubbish - you take it in - you take it out.

Cheers
Phil

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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:47

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:47

What gets to me Phil is the sign at Dalhousie telling everyone that there is a rubbish dump just out side of camp and please use the dump provided and morons then ignore the sign and dump rubbish in front of the sign.....

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Follow Up By: AndrewW - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:52

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:52

Finding rubbish anywhere other than in a bin irritates me a lot. The Rubbish in front of the sign at Dalhousie did that too, it was a couple of kms to the rubbish dump, lazy good for nothing oxygen thieves.

I actually picked up almost a full bag of someone elses crap that had be almost buried, but was dug up by animals, and took it to the dump in Birdsville. It was at a lunch stop along the French line, and included an empty oil container and other plastic things that would not have bio-degraded ever.

I actually expected to see more abandonded trailers in the desert, considering all the warnings about it on the net. We even saw a group of people towing a normal motor bike trailer half way along the QAA line.

Andrew

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:37

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:37

Unfortunately there aren't any fines (unless you are caught actually dumping it) but never mind fellow four wheelers in the form of volunteers will devote their holiday time and expenses to help remove YOUR rubbish which you probably shouldn't have had out there at all.
Having towed a camper and trailers (filled with others rubbish) across a few times over the years yes a well built trailer will survive but it should be kept as light as possible with most of the load in the vehicle. Remember too that the Off Road Towing Capacity of your vehicle is nowhere near the rated on road towing capacity.
An example is a vehicle that has a 2.5 t on road towing capacity may only have a 750kg off road towing capacity.
If trailers continue to be abandoned in remote areas then of course one day we will all be prevented from taking them there regardless of how well set up it is.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:48

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:48

Good points Peter.

Maybe we can organise a cleanup where we bring the wheels, axles and springs, and take out the trailers :-))

Trailers are so simple, but its amazing how much can go wrong. Simple thing like too much drawbar weight, can bend/break the drawbar and bend the vehicle's chassis as well. Like you say, it will never happen around town, but on the bumpy Desert tracks, different story.

Cheers
phil

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Reply By: slave - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:53

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:53

We saw 2 dumped trailers on the QAA line when we came through on July 5th. One was complete with about 6 sauce bottles and about 4 water bottles. We heard at the Birdsville Hotel that the contents from one had been buried and the owners were returning in 12 months to collect them.

Also heard of a camper trailer left out ther as well.

Mrs Slave

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:30

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:30

So, with all these camper trailers dumped out there, why are people not driving out there with car trailers to bring them back and flog em off makin big bucks out of this??

If all they need is new drawbar and flog it off again....

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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:39

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:39

Good point T.

They are afterall , abandoned , with no right to title.

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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:53

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:53

This all reminds me of the bush around Wollongong.....presuming here that most were insured, and man is greedy, why arnt the insurance companies made to retrieve them after they take ownership????
Andrew

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Follow Up By: AndrewW - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:56

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:56

We went through about the same time as everyone in this thread, actually met Phil at Poeppels corner.

The trailers we saw had everything removed, and were just shells. Even if you took axles, springs and wheels, they looked like very second hand trailers at best, and considering the cost of getting to Birdsville and mounting the rescue mission, it is hardly likely you would make any money out of it.

On the plus side, at least there would be less crap in the desert if someone did this.

Andrew

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:04

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:04

Some people above are talking about still in 1 piece with food still in em?

best scenario.
If you could grab 2 on trailer, 1 on the back of ute, selling at average of $10k for a expensive box trailer with tent on some more some less, you couldnt lose.

Even if the 'rescue' cost $5k, $3k for repairs to each trailer.. thats still $15 G's in the pocket..

Dozer.
The Government FORCE an insurance company to do something? Gawd. more chance of fuel hitting $0.30cents again....
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Follow Up By: slave - Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 20:39

Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005 at 20:39

The 2 trailers we saw were just box trailers that were trashed when we saw them, no wheels, axles and no worth the recovery cost, just the clean up cost.

Mrs Slave

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