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Submitted: Friday, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:32
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taylortribe
Hi all, just signed up. I read a few topics over the last few weeks. Excellent site with good advice too. We have recently purchased our first 4WD. A 2000 GU patrol. I'm just starting to get some recovery stuff but was wondering about hi-lift jacks. I know it has probably been discussed before with great debate, but my concern is with the GU. Having limited jacking points has anyone used one safely without damaging the vehicle or are there adapters to use apart from the hub adapter to change tyres quickly?
Any ideas appreciated.
B.T.W, Heading up to the Flinders in Sept/Oct. getting tired of unpacking, putting up tent, take down tent, pack trailer etc. etc. Thinking of
buying a camper trailer at a later date but would like to hire one for two weeks to try. Any suggestions on hire
places around
Adelaide?
Thanks in advance.
Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jul 22, 2005 at 20:52
Friday, Jul 22, 2005 at 20:52
Just some other points. The standard jacks usually struggle with the rear end of a fully loaded Cruiser or Patrol. Its because we are all naughty and load above the GVM. Some people upgrade the jack to a 4 or 6 ton hydraulic jack. But make sure the max and minimum lengths of the jack are OK for your vehicle when it has a flat tyre.
Secondly, flat tyres are usually avoidable. In the Flinders there can be lots of sharp rocks that penetrate the tread of the tyre. So if you take away tyres with plenty of tread, don't drive over 80kph on dirt, don't overload the vehicle, and reduce your pressures to about 25psi when off bitumen, chances are you'll be fine. People who tell you to pump the tyres up hard are usually tyre resellers who like selling tyres. And I always take a plug kit away because we can repair tyres on the vehicle and 10 minutes later, we are on the road again.
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Follow Up By: taylortribe - Friday, Jul 22, 2005 at 22:25
Friday, Jul 22, 2005 at 22:25
Hi Phil, some good points there. I usually try to avoid loading the car at all as everything goes in the trailer with the heavy items being over the axle. I find this evens out quite
well. Looks like the exaust jack is the way to go. I've never trusted lift jacks, too many bad experiences in the past with normal cars. I need something thats going to do the job quickly plus with our four kids (hence the taylortribe !!!!) something thats going to be safe. I know its not something you use all the time, but when the time does come, safety for my family overides everything.
Most dirt roads that I don't know I usally don't go over 60 kmh as I like to look at the scenery at the same time, plus I don't know when the road could change so why take chances. People with experience is a different story but me, I'm learning. I must get some repair kits though. Keep for getting them. Glad you reminded me. LOL. Only other thing now is air. Still deciding between onboard air or portable.
Cheers.
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Reply By: muzzgit (WA) - Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 02:57
Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 02:57
I went for an exhaust jack for three reasons.
First.
I have been told on many occasions that high lift jacks are unstable and dangerous, and knowing my luck, the car will fall off the bloody thing at the worst moment.
Second.
The possible damage to my GU, or me !!!
Third.
Storage and weight. I didn't want one of these great big heavy things in the back of the wagon, and the rear door already has enough weight on it with the spare tyre. The exhaust jack weighs bugger-all and is in a handy carry bag which I also use to carry the tyre repair kit and other bits 'n bobs.
Just be carefull of your exhaust and fuel tanks as stated above.
Cheers,
Muzz
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Follow Up By: taylortribe - Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 04:57
Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 04:57
Thanks Muzz, thats something I hadn't thought off, Storage and weight.
I've seen a couple of 12 and 20 ton bottle jacks on the net, although these sound overkill a bit, for between 40 and 80 bucks or there abouts I think they are pretty good value and just use an exaust jack for emergencies like beach or uneven grounds etc.
Cheers,
Shaun.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 17:29
Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 17:29
yea but a high lift looks alot tougher hanging off the back than an airbag under the
seat (LOL)
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Follow Up By: taylortribe - Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 19:43
Saturday, Jul 23, 2005 at 19:43
This is true, Mmm, wonder how far this could go, bullbar off a Kenworth, twin stacks, truck horns on the roof etc etc... hehehehehe
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