speed cameras

Submitted: Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
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Hi everyone. We all know that if you're speeding at night and you pass a speed camera and the flash goes off then you've been 'got'. But what about in the daylight? Does no flash mean you got through OK, because I've been told that the flash goes off irrespective of the time of day.
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Reply By: OziExplorer - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
The newer speed cameras don't have flashes.
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Reply By: Steve L - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Derek,

Ozi is right - the new cameras are digital and don't have a flash.

Steve
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Reply By: John - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
The New Speed cameras use Infrared technology and don't require visable flashes night or day.
You really can't tell if you have been nabed at a speed/red light camera until you get your fine in the mail (this can sometimes take months).

John
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Reply By: Tim - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Derek, If you're in melbourne there are speed cameras in the over head signs on major roads and on the top of poles that otherwise look like lights etc - and they don't flash - they just send you the fine
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Reply By: Truckster - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Everyone else has said it, and Tim is right, they just send it... its usually home before you are!

its all about "SAFETY not money..
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Follow Up By: Janset - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
and the green grass grew all around all around!!!

Regards
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Truckster, of course, OF COURSE we believe you it is all about safety.
Are you still a salesman for used and second hand insurance policies???
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Reply By: damien - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
There's plenty of cameras placed in spots that have absolutely nothing to do with safety - it's all about revenue raising.

The government uses the money to fill up its coffers, so they can give themselves annual pay rises.

If it was about safety, wouldn't all the money be spent on putting more police out there & improving our road network - it's a scam & only suckers believe it's about safety.

(BTW, i'm not saying this out of anger, i haven't had a speeding fine for 7 years)

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Follow Up By: Truckster - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Well I dont think they need more cops out there, they need MARKED cars instead of spy unmarked cars everywhere... What happens when someone sees a cop car. THEY SLOW DOWN. What happens when you dont see an unmarked car? NOBODY DOES JACK bleep TE...

If they had as much visibilty out there as unmarked cars, then nobody would speed!

my last post was 10000% sarcasim about safety too....
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00
Truckster, I don't think it is about marked or un-marked cars, it is the UNfair way they are speed trapping. At the bottom of hills, on the flat immediately before a hill where people speed up a little to get up the hills etc.
If people are exceeding the speed limit by 9.9% or more, they deserve to pay. However, 62 and 63km/h is not fair or reasonable. When I was in Tasmania they allowed 10% and if you got caught speeding, you were bloody well speeding - excessively.

Some of these streets that are 50km/h are just absolutely stupid. I am not saying I think all 50km/h streets are stupid, but some main wide throughfare streets that are 50km/h. Some residents are complaining about increased pollution levels in some of these streets as most have to shift down a gear.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Thursday, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:00
ozi, I agree with the zero tolerance...

I know my speedo isnt accurate by around 10%.. at least... with 33's and 10yr old car, mass produced speedo, and gears etc wear and tear what can you expect?

But I cant afford to have lt calibrated monthly or after every nice offroad trip..
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
I could live with speed limits if they were set by experts (not cops) and were appropriate for the conditions. Where I live there is a twisting, undulating, pot-holed, tree-lined, roo-infested dog track where the limit is 100 kph. While I have no trouble fanging along at or even well above the limit, elderly, infirm, inexperienced drivers, and some trucks, tractors etc travel well below the limit (which they should) which just provokes others into very dangerous overtaking manouvres (? spelling). We have several fatalities every year. A little further on the dog track becomes a divided six lane superhwy where the limit is 80 kph. Where do you reckon the cops hang out?
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Follow Up By: Member - Gary - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Bob,

I do not know about other states but in NSW the speed limits are set by the Road Traffic Authority not Police. The Police are only doing what they are employed to do - enforce the speed limits.

If drivers want to speed they do so at their own peril and cost.

And boy are there some stupid drivers. Along the Hume Highway there are fixed cameras at Tarcutta and Coolah. There are warning signs for kms of the cameras. But they still collect fines from hundreds of drivers each year. And I thought you had to be able to read to get a drivers licence. Silly me!!!!

Gary W.

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Follow Up By: Axel + Karen - Wednesday, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:00
It must be the Gary W. from Albury,??
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Reply By: Phil - Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:00
Speed cameras and other speed controls obviously work. Remember the slogan in Victoria in the early 70s of 'Declare war on 1034'. This was the number of deaths on the road in the previous calendar year. Now with more than 15 times the number of vehicles movements the road toll in nearly half that of the 70s, yet the sport of the flashing lights from on coming vehicles with the time honoured warning is all but gone.

Yeh I know. Better to be safe than sorry, but there was a perverse joy in seeing those flashing lights and missing an amphometer or radar. But if it saves our kids lives we can't complain

PS I still flash my lights if I get a chance
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Reply By: damien - Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00
Phil, i would argue that the speed control measures are not working.

In the past 2 years in Victoria, the road toll has actually increased, this despite the fact that the revenue generated by speed cameras has increased by an incredible amount in the same time period.

There is only one conclusion that can be drawn from these figures. The government is using the cameras as a way of generating revenue & not for road safety.

How can getting booked for doing 63 in a 60 zone, at the bottom of a hill when you've been on the brakes the whole way down, possibly be about road safety - absolute rubbish!!
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:00
And the Bracks Gov has just been given a massive victory to carry on with the abuse of speed trapping and revenue raising.

Personally I wish they would put some more un-marked police cars on the road to catch some of these wild idiots that are common again.
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Reply By: Allyn - Wednesday, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:00
would it be correct to assume that the new cameras will not be affected by reflective strips over number plates?
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Thursday, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:00
http://www.fuzzbusters.com/plate_shields.htm

Or if you can get hold of the film they use on photocopiers, that goes under the glass you put your stuff on to scan, it only allows viewing from 100% behind the vehicle.....

The fine is $50, but if I get past 1 speed camera for 4 klms over Im ahead.
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