Starter motor woes

Gee! It looks like you're having a bad trot.

Bugger, It all comes in 3’s or in your case 4’s. The only thing you can do is go outside Fists in the air and shout GOD!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear how many $$ you still have to go. I drove home very slowly, suspected suspension woes. Took it to my mechanic...nothing wrong. I'm puzzled, as it certainly wasn't Ok. Maybe the driver had bush fever ? :))))))))

Strewth Willie, You sure do have a knack for finding bad luck..... I'm sorry to read about your tale of woe.
Hopefully things will start to look up soon enough, mate....
Cheers

Roachie

Hi Willem,

Theres always a good reason when a starter motor "won't work". If theres no click any more, I'd pull it out, hook it up to a battery (with a jumper to the solenoid terminal and see what it does. Just to rule out everything else.

A good old fashioned autoelectrician will take it apart, and fix it - solenoid, or brushes, or even skim the armature. I've been lucky enough to find one in the past.

Had similar hassles starting a LandCruiser in the past and eventually found a fusible link hanging on by a thread.

Cheers
phil

Willie, Willie, Willie

And you have the unmigitated gaul to heap sh*t of we poor LR drivers .... ;o)
Bad luck champ, they do say it comes in threes.

In your case is it fours or fives.
As has been said before ... hold down the shift key on the 4 in 4WD.

Cheers and commerisations old mate

Look on the bright side Willem - you saved a bit on the sat. phone?

Mike Harding

Willem, check out http://aea.com.au also known as Auto Electrics Australia. They are the cheapest source for starter motors/alternators I've found. I had to get a new alternator for my 92 efi GQ petrol and they delivered to my door from Qld, 2 days delivery for just over $240 and it was a 90 amp unit compared to my original 70 amp one. There were a couple of mods I had to do to the pulley but it works fine for me.
Regards Andrew.

Hi Willem,
Should have bought a Toyota L/C. Mine is a 80 series 1991 vintage. Done 458000 km, still same starter motor, original engine seals, motor has not been touched.
It is an HD turbo diesel, I reckon it's the best car I ever bought. Having said this, touch wood. I did replace the alternator and aircon compressor.
Cheers

Willem, I can check new price if your keen tomorrow thru my dude.

I reckon that gettin yours reconditioned would be as good as new...

With the headlights, go for H4 inserts instead of sealed beams... you can change the globes to suit yourself! ~$100 for Hella H4 inserts

Warranty on the STT?

Just maybe you've got the wrong vehicle advertised in the trader LOL
cya Sat.

Willem , before you buy a new starter , how about you buy a set of bearings first , there worth around $10, unless the armature is shot , it will be up and running like a trooper . very rare to see the armature shot , unless its been polling for ages

a good auto elec should be able to rebuild the starter to new as new condition....still only three months warranty but it should last if done correctly...

a new starter can fail as easily as a rebuild?

Thanks for all your replies and advice, fellas. Much appreciated

Cmon Willem shurly you have been 4bying long enough to know it aint cheap, After all in one trip you did only do what most of us poor buggers who have to work 10 years to do. As for the starter, simple and cheap - dont turn it off just keep travelling

Willem,

If you have a good autoelec then go to him. A properly rebuilt starter will outlast the vehicle probably and what is the point of getting a new one and rebuilding the old one for a spare. How many times have you or will you need to replace the starter? It would just be a waste of money. Remeber you have already spent money on the solenoid so assuming the armature is OK there should not be a lot to do to bring it up to scratch and as Phil said could be some wiring considering all the electrical problems you have had. But I thinlk you need a good auto electrician not someone who does a bit of everything mechanical if you know what I mean.

As suggested - cheaper to have the original starter motor rebuild as you've already fitted a new solenoid to it.

As a bonus you could always wire in a standard Bosch / Hella relay to power the solenoid as some starter motors display the click, click, click of a broken one but it was only a voltage drop in the wiring harness - basically not enough to start.

Just remove the solenoid (ignition switch) power wire to activate the relay - the same way as spot lights etc relays are wired - one 20 amp wire from the battery "+" to the relay, one 20 amp wire from the relay to the solenoid and one 20 amp from the relay back to battery "-" or ground - that way it'll always be good clean 12v to the starter every time.

Willem,
I had that same click click click sound with no starting today :-(
so pulled the starter off and took the solenoid section apart as that is almost always the first place to give problems, found that the pos (+) contact seat that the solenoid valve contacts was off centre and not making a decent contact because the bolt that held it in place was also the same bolt that the pos (+) lead from the cranking battery connected to the starter, when I had a new transmission fitted recently they must have tightened the battery lead too hard and it turned the solenoid pos (+) side seat off centre.

Two hours later I had everything cleaned up and realigned and it works just purrfect again.

I would check it first before you splash out 700 plus on something that may cost absolutely nothing at all, as it’s really simple to pull apart when you know what to look for? My starter is original and has done 530,000 Klms, the contacts and brush's were good for another 1/2 mill.
If it’s not broke why try an fix it!