Don't go through water too slow

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:08
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After three days of trying to dry the carpet and underfelt in the Jerry, I'm here to say keep your momentum up when going through water.

I went too slow, got stuck, got wet, good learning experience.

I won't make that mistake again.

I'm learning every day. Just learnt a lesson a little hard this time.

At least I did no significant damage.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:38

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:38
Jim I reckon you would have been better off taking the carpet out and let it air / dry properly otherwise you can have a lingering damp smell in the car for ages.

Just part of the fun.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:48

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:48
John,

See below, reply to Eric
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Follow Up By: Robert Greene - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:04

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:04
Jimbo i think you will fing that the other guy John is right you are much better to take it out complete. i dont knoe what car you have but a snell will come back if you are lazy about it. Its not too late to admi wrongly and take good advice NOW!
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Reply By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:47

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:47
Slower in is much better than fast . Once I went through a simple crossing to quickly and my tyre hit a submerged rock or tree and the steering wheel almost broke my thumb . The mistake you made , was not attackhing a snach strap to the rear of the car before you got in. If your not sure if your going to make it , always attach a strap and have a car ready facing the opposite way . the time saved , you account for at leats 50 litres of water lol . Once your in the water for a while , no mater how good your seals are , it will start to flud .

Ps , I agree with John , its carpets out , hit them with a jet blaster and soap and alow them to dry properly . this gives you time to clean the metal surface properly . Even if you need to drive around with no carpet for a while , who cares , at least it will be done properly . That mud water stain will be back to haunt you got years to come if you dint do it properly
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:55

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:55
John/Eric,

Thanks for the advice.

Fortunately when she went under she tlted to the right and I only got water in through the drivers door and rear door so the car didn't get thoroughly soaked. I've removed the sill plates and got under the carpet to dry out the underfelt. I'm able to feel where it got wet to and have dried it with towels and a heater. Also sprayed it with Glen 20 to stop mould and mildew.

I've left the plates off and put objects under the carpet to let it breath and will do so for the next week and keep hitting with heater and Glen 20. Getting the carpets right out will entail removing seats, console etc. I'll try that if what I am doing fails, but no smell so far.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 15:14

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 15:14
Jimbo- go grab yourself one of the Vax machines you can hire from a supermarket. I worked over my carpets after making my car a submarine and was amazed at the amount of mud, water and crap it got out. It also meant the drying time was reduced and the muddy mouldy stench was replaced with a freshly cleaned kind of stench. Kept it in the sun with windows an inch down for a few days after and she's sweet.
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 15:25

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 15:25
Wack some news papers between the carpet and underfelt. They soak up the moisture real quick. You may have to change every few hours initially.
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:53

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:53
Bad luck Jimbo, but good lesson. At least you had a go.

1. How deep was the water ?
2. Was it fast moving ?
3. Where ? In croc country ?

The first lesson is to asses depth by walking through whilst also checking the path for boulders, logs etc.
Good idea to cut some stakes to mark boulders, holes, etc, if necessary to set a guide path through.

If there's a chance of getting caught in the middle, have all the recovery gear set up and ready to use for immediate action.

If it's deep don't forget to screen the radiator & only go in if the vehicle has a snorkle fitted. Unless your experienced don't do deep crossings unless you are with a back-up vehicle.

You gotta keep smiling or you wont go back. LOL. All part of the adventure.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:58

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2005 at 23:58
Cocka has said it all.

Most of all Think assess and decide but err on the side of caution.

Drowned cars are easily replaced but the occupants are not.

But then again we all learn by our mistakes so have fun with care.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Follow Up By: gramps - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:12

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:12
And a lot of good advice on this post. Thanks guys. Appreciate the benefit of your experience.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:14

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:14
Oops! Sorry Jimbo. Unfortunately somebody's got to be a trailblazer for we novices :-)
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Reply By: Member - Barry W (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:29

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 00:29
Hi Jim
We all learn from our mistakes ???
Some of us are "man" enough to admit we f***ed up !!
Others well ???
The best thing to do is pull out as much of the interior that is wet and dry it out properly - it's a bitch but what can I say it's the only way to do it properly
I know ?? !MPG:7!
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 17:21

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 17:21
See my response to post 25124.

The hole I was in there was similar to your Sunk -Otways, bit less water.

Duncs
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Reply By: warthog - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:07

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:07
I'm no expert at 4wding but I reckon stay out of mud and water if you can avoid it. Best way to damage cv joints, seals, gear boxes , and runnuing gear in general when water and grit inevitably finds its way into bits that don't like it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:50

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:50
Yeah that's some good advice, but if I wanted that I'd buy a commodore and go for a country drive on the black top! ;-)

Common sense and fun don't always meet in the middle... :-)

CV's should be reasonably water tight if the boots are in good nic, if they are damaged your going to stuff them just driving on gravel roads or in sand. Diffs, Gearboxs etc etc can have breather extenstions fitted and just be aware that if you do have a "dirty weekend" it's probally best to grease up all your nipples when you get back (so to speak).
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Follow Up By: warthog - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:55

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:55
Mechanic mate reckons wiper kits on rigid front axles don't seal all that well, and plunge a hot transmission and diff into cold water and its going to cause a negative pressure as it cools suddenly possibly pullingbleepthrough the seals extended breathers or not. Most probably knew that anyway but for me anyway it aint that much fun forking out more dead money.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:00

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:00
You bring up a very good point, ALWAYS LET YOUR CAR COOL DOWN before water crossings. Otherwise, yeah you'll do damage somewhere. The advatage of this is that normally rivers are a really nice place to stop for lunch or smoko. ;-)

Have you seen the boots you can now buy for rigid front axel vehicles, they look like a big version of the ones on IFS and can slip straight over without the need to take anything apart, they bolt together on one side, pretty cool.

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Follow Up By: warthog - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:05

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:05
No I've never heard of them and they sound like a good idea, as you say it is fun sliding around and sometimes you can't avoid it hey. Do you know where you can price them or see a photo?
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:16

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 13:16
I just tried to find the link, I saw it about a month ago on a different forum, they weren't too expensive either from memory, I'll keep looking but I can't seem to find it now!! DOH!

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Reply By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 19:27

Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 at 19:27
Jim

Easier said than done airing the carpet out half way up the CSR hey?

Andy
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Reply By: lhall - Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 23:11

Sunday, Aug 14, 2005 at 23:11
Did you walk the crossing. If you go to slow you can be washed down the river and water can start coming in the doors while moving. You need to watch for big rocks and trees. Yeah but never go charging in
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