Boost 98 octane fuel

For the information of those who care,you all know what I am about but this is usful information. APSI in USA have tested FITCH with fuel laced with 85% ETHANOL yes 85% and guess what fuel savings were recorded at 15% with massive reduction in exhaust pollution.Just a bit of inside information..

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THIS IS NOT TRUE. !!!!!!!!!!!!

Ethanol is very stable, whether mixed with petrol or stand-alone. It has not got any base component of water. It is made, as is your best scotch of rum, by the fermentation of sugars (often in water) from either grain or cane, and then distilled to remove it from the water. It is then passed through a molecular sieve to remove all the remaining moisture, before being mixed with petrol.

Recently at the Uni of Minnesota in Minneapolis, the engineers that have been doing a large amount of research work on E10 and its non effects on motors, drained a tank that had contained E10 for many years, and thought to get a sample tested. The test results showed that it was still in excellent condition.

It is non-corrosive, and will not rust or rot out any fuel tank, lines or fuel system components.

Ethanol has a strong affinity with water however, and will dissolve all the water that is commonly present in all petrol tanks in almost all vehicles on the road.

This can cause initial fuel filter blockages as it cleans your fuel tank out. After this clean out, it will keep your fuel system very clean and in top condition.

All negitives that you hear about ethanol is part of a scare campaign run by the big four vested interests.

All Queensland petrol sold between 1927 and 1957 north of Gympie contained 15% power alcohol (or ethanol) made at Sarina and was only displaced by the price of petrol becoming so cheap at this time.

Thanks

Wayne

Wayne, not having a crack, but how does ethanol "disolve" water?

NOT TRUE.

It is the other C#^P that oil companies mix into their fuel and can be hidden by the octane boost from the ethanol that will cause this problem, not the ethanol.

Try it your self, put some metho (Ethanol - just look on the label) on or into any plastic you like, - nothing will happen. Same with orings and rubber components, it will not hurt them. I is fact a very poor solvent!

This is just another urban myth spread by those with a vested interests.

Wayne

Yes Ron,

I believe you that the sign is there.

I am saying the ethanol will not cause this effect. Other things oil companies put in their fuel can though.

The whole situation with octane is a very interesting one, with Australia having some of the poorest quality standards for petrol (& Fuels) in the world.

In Qld, an independent fuel coy is selling E10, ie Unleaded plus 10% ethanol. They buy ordinary ULP @ about 91 RON and add 10% ethanol, which boosts the octane to about 95 and sells for about the price of normal ULP. Great stuff! They also add ethanol to "ordinary" premium that takes it up to about 100.

Yet big oil coys make (or buy imported) ULP then add 10% ethanol and sell though their outlets as 91 octane!! What does it start as? About 87 I believe.

In the US, at about 180 outlets they now sell E85 - ie 85% ethanol, and it sells up to 50 USc / US gal less than normal petrol. (> 15 AU c / lt)BUT the motor must be modified to run this much ethanol or it will run too lean.

Most modern fuel injected cars can easily run 50% ethanol without any modification or damage. It was the ACA type media campaign that cruelled the subject.

Bring on Bio-fuels.

Wayne

I believe Tolulean (Spelling I think) is one of the products people may be confusing with ethanol, Tolulean is one of many product’s that can and is used as a octane booster and is a very good solvent as well but also a very good octane booster in-fact if you read BP’s web site very closely you will find they suggest adding this to the tank to rase the fuel octane rating.

Adding 5% to your tank will rase the octane rating by 1-2 point’s and it is possable can go as high as 35% Tolulean.

Yes Exploder,
Toluene is one of the identified nasties that fuel companies use to lift octane. A google search shows some of its ill effects.
Wayne

there was a chevy 4x4 in the 80's designed for E85, no one gave a stuff when it came out so faded away

F4, True not absolutely dissolving, but when u mix a small amount of water with anhydrous ethanol, the combined volume in less than the sum of the 2, and the 2 have an extremely strong affinity and require the input of a relativly large amount of eneggy to be seperated again.
Wayne