Engel Fridge playing up

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:03
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I have discovered since returning from our trip north that the fridge is having problem's staying on every time i just touch the power lead right on the where it connects to the fridge i loose power i pull the lead a little bit out of the socket and the fridge stays on,now would this problem be in the lead or inside the fridge where the lead plugs in to if you know what i mean i just do'nt want to waist money in getting the fridge looked at if it's only in the lead,has any one else had this problem be fore,any suggestions would be a help.thanks GREENDOG
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Reply By: Leroy - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:09

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:09
12v lead or 240v lead? It sounds like a bad connection. You could get a multimeter and check the continuity of the lead and at the same time flex the lead. Could also be the socket that the lead plugs into. May need to check it for mechanical damage.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:21

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:21
Thanks Leroy it's the lead that i have for my duel battery system that i plug then screw into the plug then runs to the battery if you noe what i mean cheer's GREENDOG
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Reply By: Glowplugs - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:21

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:21
GREENDOG

My 20 year old 15lt plastic body Engel had that same problem some years back. It appears that where the 12/240 plug went in the plastic surround broke. So I took the fridge apart and rewired(bushmechanic-wise) it and soldered the ends of where the wires joined the plug, taped it up, and it has worked ever since. It now lives in the missus' car and is used whenever she goes shopping for tucker. The plastic body has broken and I have recently made a wooden frame for it to live in. It has never been serviced and just keeps on working.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:26

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:26
Thanks for your relpy mate it seem's i only have to touch the plug and the fridge stops touch it again and it starts working again it might be a case of buying a new lead cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:27

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:27
glowplugs?? did willem get the flick?

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Glowplugs - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:37

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:37
Time for a change...also my screen name on other forums
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:30

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:30
Didn't I just read somewhere that Engels never play up...???

Sorry, bored at work again.
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:32

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:32
Must of been mistaken with the other mob, and yes i'm dissapointed cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:52

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:52
It's the first time Blue! lol.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:24

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:24
Bunny needs an eye operation......
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Follow Up By: gramps - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:01

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:01
Naaa He's just starting to wink
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Reply By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:30

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:30
Thats what i thought, is Willem in the DOG HOUSE ?
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Follow Up By: Glowplugs - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:39

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:39
No, he is being a Gemini(not the car) with multiple personalities lol
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:56

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:56
Just leave the cross dressin out of it ok lol cheer's
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Follow Up By: Glowplugs - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:09

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:09
You bin talkin to that dodgy Bank Manager at Kadina,eh? Watch it mate...I have the power to do spells.................
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 21:13

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 21:13
Willie,
You leave my mate alone!!!! (;-))

Greendog,

Just a thought (and i haven't read all the other replies yet, so it may have already been suggested)......why not check with somebody else's plug/s or leads and see if the fridge works ok with a lead/s that are known to be okay? If so, you know it's the fridge and not the lead/s

Cheers mate

Roachie

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:42

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:42
Ive had 2 friends with the same problem on the current series (F) engel.

In both cases it was a broken wire at the fridge end of the 12 volt lead.

Replace the lead and I think you'll fix the problem.
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:54

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:54
Thanks Phil, i hav'nt really used the fridge alot in the last 3 yrs it's basically new in great condition thats whats dissapointing about it.Thanks for your reply cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:05

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:05
Engels came with a 3 year warranty. You may still be covered.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:24

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:24
Bet you have a mate with an engel, try their lead to see if it is the lead.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Reply By: Utemad - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:06

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:06
Take it to a shop that sells Engels and try it with a new lead. I am sure they will be happy to help you out. Especially since if it is the lead then they will get a sale.
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:09

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 22:09
Spot on Utemad that's what i might do thanks mate cheer's GREENDOG
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:23

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 23:23
If you are only just touching the plug and it's doing it - with minimal to no movement of the lead my money is on the connection on the inside of the fridge.

The leads aren't cheap either.

Got a mate with an Engel who's lead you can plug in & wobble a bit?

The plug is fairly well strain relieved. I have noticed on my fridge slide the plug rests against the end of the slide. Any mechanical vibration would be transferred from the body of the plug to the connector in the back of the fridge.

Might take the angle grinder to the fridge slide before we head to Arkaroola.

Dave
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Reply By: Member - Woodsy - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 06:43

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 06:43
Hi Greendog,

I agree with Phil G.
Some leads tend to break the wires at the plug. We had to do emergency (beer was not cold) repairs while on the Anne Beadel. We had a gas soldering iron. Had to cut the plug up a bit to do the repair but it is still going OK after 5 years.
Another mate just bought a new lead.
Happy 4 wheeling

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Reply By: VK3CAT - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 10:44

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 10:44
Hi Greendog.
My Engel fridge uses a moulded 3 pin connection socket on the standard OEM supply cable. Often with this type of connection suffers from poor connection problems & is not user serviceable. This Engel OEM supply lead has two parrallel connection pins at the top & one horizontal connection pin at the bottom. It is interesting to note that the two parrallel pins are both connected to the positive battery line (thus sharing the full running current between them) whilst there is only a single negative pin. I have two leads where the negatrive pin connection has failed due to over heating / over current. The heat causes a carbon build up on the terminals that creates an ever increasing high resistance contact. This will eventually lead to the plug to fail permanently.
Before replacing the plug check (& clean if required) the connection pins at the fridge socket. A tell tale sign of this problem is heat marks / distortion on the plug & discolouration on the fridge socket connection pins.( By the way, this is also the most common fault with domestic low voltage downlights!)
Whilst you are at it, if you are using the cigarette plug, also check those connections as well as the internal fuse.
It could be of benefit to earth the fridge & thus have a higher current / low resistance negative connection (assuming that the negative side of the fridge is bonded to ground? This could cause problems when connected to 240 volts supplied from a safety switch / RCD protected power source. Will need to check out the fridge once the car gets back!)
My 39 litre 1998 model Engel needed a new compressor & fan after 4 years.
Cheers Tony
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:25

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:25
Hi Tony thanks for the info mate i'll check it all through and see what i came up with,it looks like i'll start with a new lead if that does'nt work i can allways take it back cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: VK3CAT - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 16:52

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 16:52
Checked out the Engel. The negative connection is not connected to chassis / ground so forget the earth strap idea.
Cheers link Tony
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 17:42

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 17:42
Greendog it was quite a common problem particually in the early Engels & it was almost always in the plug not the fridge. Regular use or packing gear around the back of the fridge often flaired the ends of the contacts in the plug leading to a poor connection & intermittant opperation.
I had 2 leads where the plugs actually snapped off inside. Easiest way to check is with a multi tester.
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: sub wa - Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 23:21

Sunday, Sep 18, 2005 at 23:21
had the same problem with mine at xmas.took it to engel land in balcatta ,he had a look at it .put a screwdriver in the socket and closed up the connectors a bit.[12 volt].hasnt stopped since.
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