Toilet Paper-to burn or not to burn

This was covered in post 26506. It gives the full story. Looks like she tried to burn the S*** as well as the paper.

??? there is that much animal crap out in the bush the little produced by visitors aint gonna reduce the amount by any measurable way and at least most of us bury ours - does the bear crap in a plastic bag, no he bleep s in the woods. As for American ideas - well they can stay in America

hay what a great idea oick up our crap in plastic bags and for that matter our dogs crap also in plastic bags and then we through these plastic bags in the bin and they go into land fill and take about 500 years to brake down instead of a few weeks for the unwrapped product now there is some really god thinking. thats the type of thought process i would expect to hear from someone that either works for or is trying to get a job with NPWS.

Fine - you bury your bleep , I'll pick up mine (in recycled plastic bags you can't avoid like bread bags). Next time your camping is ruined by someone's errant dunny paper or a pongy number two that's just a little too close to your tent, you'll know at least it wasn't mine.

Must be just me, but if anyone on this forum thinks a human turd is as innocuous as roo or sheep droppings or cowpats - then YUCK!

For the record I use those cotton bags for buying groceries in, and I dunno where the NPWS comment came from, I've got nothing to do with them.

Geez, what sort of go would you all have at someone coming on here saying they don't care about what they leave behind in the bush and they'd crap in the middle of a campground.

Dog poo and people poo is a bit nastier health-wise than roo droppings. Most people wouldn't bat an eyelid at a rabbit mound or roo droppings, but do you really want to see human faeces behind every second bush? Sure we have a much smaller population than the US - but go for a drive to any reasonably trafficked campground without toilet facilities and walk into the bush and see how much castout toilet paper there is behind trees.

I was up near Big River a few weeks ago in Vic, and pulled over at one of the smaller camping spots on a side road to get out and stretch the legs and have a stickybeak at the river - two lots of bleep & paper within 10m of the tent pitching area.

>>> but do you really want to see human faeces behind every second bush?

if its buried in a hole, how will you ever know?

Have a look out bush next time Scubaroo dogs are one of the more common animals found out and about and they aint on a leash and as for roo/rabbit/camel/donkey or whatever droppings not having an eylid batted at them well I certainly wouldnt drink out of the rockholes they are so fond of crapping in - perhaps they need a bag?

Glad I'm not the only person who has this approach. The idea was dismissed as ridiculous a few posts up the thread.

Apparently a few people forget the old "Keep Australia Beautiful" slogan.

How about a change to the slogan then - "Keep Australia Poo-too-full" maybe??

Wouldn't have fancied carting 7 blokes worth down the Canning.

Common sense and respect for other campers ought to be the solution but both appear to be sadly lacking these days.

Largely the sheilas are the ones responsible for the blow away stuff. Maybe cos they don't dig a hole for number ones, what ever the excuse it's not on.

No easy answer though - 4wd clubs ended up putting enviro or roto loos at two of the most popular camp sites on the Canning in order to solve this very problem. Expensive solution for sheer laziness but it appears to have worked.

Dave

Scubaroo we were up at big river ourselves about 2 months ago now just checking the place out on the way through for potential camping during summer. Needless to say we wont be back. Loo paper close to the camp sites and empty jb or udl cans scattered the whole way through - not just in the camp sites but on road sides as well. And then there's the abandoned burnt out cars.....

Dave - I agree about the bunch of guys and dragging it all out Maybe a much deeper hole with a little more effort is required. Having said that, being a "sheila" myself I do take a bit of offence to your next comment. It comes down to the type of person you are. If you give a sh*t about other campers (excuse the pun) then you will make sure your waste is properly disposed of, sheila or not. Same goes for empty drink cans and all the other crap that was scattered through Big River.

Well said Jodi. No problem for my wife. She won't go camping without the porta-pottie. This has to be about the best 'carry out' method.
So far, I haven't had to bury the contents. If I do, It'll just have to be a bl**dy deep hole! Can't see me burning the paper in this case.

Scubaroo

I doubt if crapping in the bush was part of the KAB campaign!

But then again, I live in the outback and tour in the outback. Uneducated city slickers live on the coastal fringe in their millions and do their unsightly deeds in popular places. Councils and National Parks do very little to alleviate the matter.

Maybe TV campaigns by KAB on this subject may sway the masses or better still, put it in the schools curriculum.

In the mean time I will bury it and burn the paper when I need to without setting the bush on fire.

Im withyou Geocacher.

just be smart when burning chit. deep hole match woof bury, gone.

weeks worth of 4 peoples loads, in a car 40+ degrees.. you have to be kidding....

Hi Jodi,

I'm not on my pat malone on this school of thought.

An excerpt from Westprints Friday newsletter dated 12 Aug 2005 is below. Note their estimation of the percentage of loose toilet paper and the sex of the responsible party - and the author is a female. An extremely well travelled one responsible for a company providing some of the better specialist maps many here use. It's not a throw away line from some unknown individual who has nothing to lose by making the comment.

The type of camp streamer I am referring to is the unsoiled by contact with a dirty bum, clearly never buried, dampened and discarded type. There's plenty of it and I don't know any males who wipe before they zip up.

I won't let my daughter (5 y/o) have a tinkle without burning and burying either. It's not just for number 2's. Teach them young and they won't grow up to be camp pigs.

I carry a chlorhexadine disinfectant hand wash which comes in conveniently sized 100ml bottles that jam in the middle of the toilet roll for anyone with me to use. (Rubs in doesn't get rinsed off - no stream contamination either.) What do others use?

Dave

Cut and paste as described above.
Friday Forum

Toilet talk

I received an email this week with a photo of the Canning Stock Route . I am hoping Graeme has published it at the end of this newsletter. It’s not a pretty sight but I’m sure it’s one we have all seen on outback trips. The ideal campsite just littered with reams of toilet paper. And, I’m ashamed to say, about 98% of the culprits are women. I have spoken to a number of commercial tour groups about their method of ‘toileting’ on outback trips. They all use a method the same as the one listed in Robin Stewart’s book Tread Lightly. All give their passengers a ‘toilet talk’ before the trip and each commercial tour leader I spoke to said that unfortunately they still had to do an ‘Emu bob’ around the campsite if they had been camped for more than a night.

To quote from Tread Lightly (available from Westprint) “Use a trowel or spade to remove any groundcover and then dig a hole at least 15 cm deep. Do what you need to do and if there are no fire restrictions in place, burn the toilet paper and re-fill the hole with soil. Replace groundcover and wash your hands. … If you are using a campfire burn your (day’s) toilet paper in the fire, after you have finished cooking. Alternatively place soiled toilet paper into a biodegradable plastic bag, seal it and dispose of in the next town’s tip. In environmentally sensitive areas such as alpine regions you are required to carry out all your toilet waste in well-sealed heavy duty biodegradable bags”.

It’s really not that difficult. We travelled with three children, all too young to be burning their own toilet paper. When we were on the road we kept a plastic nappy sack under the floor mat on the passenger’s side where all used toilet paper was placed, then emptied and burned each night. The toilet bag contains shovel, toilet paper, matches, wipes and a few disposable nappy sacks. Your toilet tips are invited. Jo.