2.8 &3 lt nissans

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
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Gday all
i am in the process of buying a new 4wd & after any inteligent comments or problems that anybody has come across regarding the 2.8lt & 3lt turbo deisel nissan patrol engines,are they good bad relieble under powered ect
thanks Bruce
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Reply By: OziExplorer - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Don't know the 2.8L, but the 3.0L in the Navara is great, in the Patrol if you are towing, under powered. Nissan have always generally built a good engine. Probably their worst, and saying worst, is not because it fell apart, or gave any real problems, it was the 6 cyl 3.3 SD33 engine. Why they ever produced that engine, considering Nissan had the ED33 3.3 4 cyl cross flow diesel engine which put out more power, lighter and better fuel economy than the SD33 would be interesting to know. We had the ED33 in the Cabstar trucks which were magnificent, but always wondered why they never stuck them in the Patrol. We never bought any Patrols when they had the SD33. The SD33 was only a three main bearing crank. Thankfully Nissan obviously got rid of the crank that designed that engine.
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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
agreed
nissan do seem to bulid them bullt proof i have had both toyota & nissans found the 4.2 lt deisel to be a good motor just not sure of a small deisel in such abig 4wd feel it may be placing lot more strain on the motor hence lessening its life which is why are ask if any faults have become apparrent to date
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Reply By: Eric - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Bruce,
both motors are good but the 3L is much easier to live with as it has more low end torque and higher resale value than 4.2 L. The 3L was taken from a Renault truck and has been well proven for years. As for power that depends on your expectations, for a deisel they are better than most. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
Thanks Eric
that s basicly what was after was to find out the history of the motor & its long term life span thanks
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Reply By: Truckster - Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
You say new then mention 2.8, are you talking NEW or new to you, and do you mean GQ or GU as both have both configurations.

Personally dont think you can go past the TD42. Well Proven motor. Simple.

3.0 in GU has a few problems, doesnt like dirty creeks, $3000 repairs on air conditioners are not unheard of, manuals have problems with 5th gear, and leaky rear doors.. Also Nissan dealers have no problems with playing ignorant on warranty items. EG We have never heard of that, when in fact the car behind them is in for the same issue...

2.8 GU's are slugs thats why they were discontinued, and u cant buy a new 2.8 now. If your willing to spend lots of $$ on a 2.8 it will go, but not as good as others you dont have to spend $ on.

There is a new 4.2 intercooled released few weeks ago, WELL worth looking into, rumoured to be Direct injection too ! :-D

the thing with the 3.0 is SMALL 4 cyl motor BIG car, 2 tonnes +, who knows how long and well it actual 3.0 will wear... only time will tell...

4.2s are common to go 400-500,000klms if looked after with good oil (Rimula X etc) and filters REGULARLY.

3.0 in GQ has VL Commodore donk, and you can do good tihngs with Nismo parts to get large neddies out of it.

2.8 in GQ, havent had anything to do with. but again SMALL motor BIG car...

HTH...
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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Tuesday, Dec 24, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 24, 2002 at 01:00
sorry i ment new to me '99 -2000 model it seems nobody has come across any recuring problems but have just found out that the 2.8 not availabel in auto so solves that problem anyway would prefer 4.2 turbo desiel but not so easy to find in config im looking for
thanks bruce
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Reply By: Tim - Wednesday, Dec 25, 2002 at 01:00

Wednesday, Dec 25, 2002 at 01:00
think about it - 4 cylinder diesel engines are very common in tractors that seem to last for 20 - 30 years, i am unsure as wether the number of cylinders has any thing to do with the debate (does a V8 falcon last longer than a 6 cly?) - i currently drive a GU3 and find it to be an excellent car and owned two 4.2's in the early ninties and would not buy that engine through choice as it was very sluggish compared to todays intercooled jobs! - have heard that nissan dealers are or can be unhelpful but have not had this experience - suggest that a properley maintained 3.0litre will last longer than most people will keep the car as most engines are capable to travel 500,000 klms + - merry christmas - tim
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Thursday, Dec 26, 2002 at 01:00

Thursday, Dec 26, 2002 at 01:00
Tim,

Not asking you to justify your purchase!!

I think the 6 cyl 4.2 with less strain on it to do the same as the 4cyl 3.0 will last longer. eg 4cyl Commodore V 6cyl/V8 Commodore with same body etc.. 4 cyls were dying left right center...

Nick Walker on the Patrol List has a TD42 with 520,000 klms on it, he removed the head at 480,000 and put it back on, he even has a complete kit sitting there to rebuild the car with.. It didnt need it. Hes not the only one to have over 500,000 out of a 4.2D.

Theres lots o blokes towing camper trailers with 3.0's and love it, I just dont personally like the power curve of the 3.0 to drive.

Its personal preference totally.
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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Friday, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:00

Friday, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:00
tim
how long have you owned your gu & have their been any problems even small ones that you have come across in that time
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