Advice for Transmission Fluid Change (Info for all)

Submitted: Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 19:22
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I just did a full fluid change on my automatic gearbox, so I thought I might share how I did it in the hope that it will help some one else and save them some $$.

Now as we all know a auto gearbox has no drain plug, and dropping the pan is a real PITA and not much fun when you do not have accesses to a hoist also dropping the pan will only get about 40% of the old fluid out if you did not already know that.

1st up get the ATF fluid you require and MAKE SURE IT IS THE RIGHT TYPE please, But make sure you get around 2 more litres than the transmission holds.

Next thing you need to do is find the fluid OUT line that runs from the transmission to the transmission cooler, there will be 2 lines The (IN) line and (OUT) line, Just follow each line and you should be able to figure out which line is which. My fluid run’s from the transmission to a side tank on the Engine’s Radiator then to a secondary cooler out in front then back to the transmission (So finding the out line was easy).

What I Did.

Removed the fluid out line from the secondary cooler and taped it to the handle of a 10-Litre bucket, Had all the new bottles of ATF ready to go and a 1-Litre measuring cup to pore the new stuff back in with. Start the engine and pump 1-Litre out (Will take about 45 seconds), then stop engine and quickly put 1-litre back in and repeat the processes till you have pumped out what you have put back in. Then reattach cooler line and check level, add some more fluid if required and go for about a 15k drive then recheck fluid level and do a final top up if required.

** The aim of the game is to do it as fast as possible to minimise mixing of old and new fluid there will be a small amount of mixing but you will change 90% of the old stuff, Having 2 people to do this is the best way, one works the engine wile the other guy putt’s fluid back in, If you are good you could pore the new stuff back in as the old stuff pumps out.

Why did you get 2 extra Litres of fluid?? Well as there will be some mixing I pumped a extra litre of the new fluid out to minimise mixing and well the other litre is just spear encase you come up short. Also remember the filter in the transmission need’s to be changed at-lest once in it’s life so if it’s up around 150,000k’s and still on the Original filter change it, but remember the pan needs to be dropped to do this.

One last thing, there might be a bit of back flow thro the IN line from the transmission back into the cooler and then out of it, so just put a bucket under there as well, I over looked this and had about 1 litre of dirty fluid flow out before I realised.

## if you Auto does not have a Dipstick (some don’t) then this will not work, so you are back to a pan drop or power flush. Remember on well-travelled autos a power flush can cause problems so maybe just stick to a pan drop.
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Reply By: Exploder - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 19:28

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 19:28
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Sorry this should read> Then stop engine and quickly put 1-litre back in and repeat the processes till you have put back in the same amount you have pumped out .” Obviously!!
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Follow Up By: GeoffMc - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:21

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:21
So what did U do about the transmission filter??
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Follow Up By: hl - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:28

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:28
Hi,

All seems like good advice, except,

If you take it to an auto transmission specialist:

1. They will do it all for you

2. They will also change internal oil filter (many auto trans have this)

3. They will advise you if there are bits floating around inside, telling you it's time to save up for an overhaul or trade it in.

4. They will adjust bands if necessary

4. Mine charges about $150.00 for the job and I think it's worth it.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:38

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:38
GeoffMc

The old fluid in mine was not too dirty so I did not worry about the filter Yet, The pan will be dropped and filter changed at 150,000k’s it is currently on 122,000k’s my main priority was to change out all of the old fluid and to have fresh fluid in it.

The handbook States that the transmission never need’s a service or fluid change, which is just Bull to me as all fluids where out and need replacing.

It is amazing at how much smoother it all operates when it is running new fluid.

The thing to remember is if you just do a filter change and pan drop (Which is what most workshops/ dealerships will do) then you still have 60% dirty/ old fluid running in the system, Now I have 90%+ new fluid running in the system and maybe a slightly dirty filter, Auto’s run pretty clean and even after 150,000k’s I would not expect to see much in the filter.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:27

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 20:27
Ithought about doing it myself but after getting a price ($80 to do it on the Turbo 400 in the Humvee) it was cheaper and easier to let the transmission place do it.
I couldn't buy the ATF and a pan gasket for that amount, never mind the mess and the labour!
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Reply By: Exploder - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 21:05

Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 21:05
I don’t disagree with you their, yes it will all be done for you.
But I now know I have quality (Ford approved) fluid running in my system, just about all of the old fluid is removed unlike with just a filter change and pan drop.

4> Mine chargers $150 for the Job, Mate the transmission fluid cost me $135 for 10 litres of Penrite Synthetic ATF (Ford Mercron V approved). The stuff from ford was close to $200, so at a transmission shop I would have been lucky to get change from $300, so you see why i did it this way

3> If you have metal floating around in the system you will know you have problems long before the filter is changed.

I must admit I will be taking it to a workshop for the filter change, as laying on my back in the driveway spilling ATF fluid all over myself as I drop the pan is not my idea of a good time (I get enough oil and chite on me at work anyway)

But for 10 minutes of work and knowing I have all new fluid in my transmission I am happy.
It may not be for everyone I just thought I would post so people who want to freshen up there fluid can have a go at it.

If any body has any questions about the operation I will do my best to answer them, please remember this is just a idea I had on how to quickly and easily do a full fluid flush on a auto transmission and is in no way indorsed anywhere by any manufacture I know of, So if not confident don’t do it I would hate to see somebody stuff there trannie up.


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