Best camping between Happy Valley and Waddy????

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G'day all you Fraser Is regulars, my wife and I are off to Fraser for the first time on Sunday. We’ll be camping and can be self sufficient if necessary.We’ve done our share of camping and four wheel driving, our gear sets up reasonably fast but we need to have the truck backed up to the tent, we like a bit of fishing but the main idea is to explore some of the island, get some good photos and enjoy the camping with out to much rushing around.
We will be coming from River Heads and will be staying at Central Station for a couple of nights then drive to Dilli Village and up the east beach to camp for three to five nights.
My question is where would you camp between Happy Valley and Waddy Point?
Where is you favourite spot?
Any replies will be most appreciated.
Keith and Sandra


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Reply By: snailbait (Blue mntns) - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 20:10

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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 21:18

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Good advice ;~)
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 20:18

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 20:18
Keith and Sandra,

CLICK HERE and you will be taken to the Cathedral Beach private campground website. It is a great spot and well worth considering. You can also go to www.epa.qld.gov.au and under camping bookings locate Fraser Island for National Park camping info.

It is a great spot.

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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 21:26

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 21:26
Thanks Brian,
I was talking to someone at Cathedral today, sounds good. I was wondering if there was much difference between the private camping areas and the others other than the price.
I can't find much info about K'gari camping grounds. Has anyone been there?
Keith and Sandra
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Reply By: Big Woody - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:04

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:04
Hi K&S,

If you wish to just go beach camping and not in a formed campground then our favourite spot is about 5 minutes north of Waddy Point.

You will find a short track into Ocean Lake just South of Ngkala Rocks. We love this spot, especially off season as it is very quiet. You can camp up on the Dune with a great outlook over the Ocean because of the elevation.

In addition to all of this is that we enjoy jumping in the car at 9 or 10pm and driving the couple of minutes into Ocean Lake and having a dip in the fresh water. We don't use any soap but it feels nice to go to bed clean and fresh at night. The water is usually quite warm in this lake too.

If you are there for the fishing this is the spot because of the accessibility north to Sandy Cape and South to Indian Head if you want to depending on what the wind is doing.

As this is your first trip though, if you are there for the sightseeing, then you may wish to camp further south as most of the popular sights are south of Indian Head.

Whatever you end up doing you are going to love it, as it certainly is one of the best places I have camped in this country. (Out of the tourist seasons)

Cheers,
Brett

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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:41

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:41
Brett, that sounds like my kind of spot. For our first visit to Fraser it might be out of the way to get around and see the sights.
I'll check it out for our next trip.
Have you ever heard of anyone having trouble leaving their beach camps unatended, is this a worry on Fraser as a rule?
Keith and Sandra
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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:10

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:10
How many of you camp at your spot?
K and S
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:10

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:10
I agree with Woody, the area around Ocean Lake is a top spot. There are some composting toilets on the way to the lake, so showers, but as Woody says, the lake is great to freshen up. (no soap or shampoo though) You will avoid the backpackers too, who rarely venture past Orchid Beach. No hire vehicles are permitted north of Orchid I believe. As far as leaving your camp unattended, just take any valuables with you, just in case. Secure your food well, leave nothing out for the dingoes. Talk to the rangers about that, they'll give you good advice.

However, to sight see, either camp on the beach, somewhere North of Eurong, not too far though. From here, you will be pretty central. Use low tide to venture up the beach and back. High tide, head inland. You must go to Lake Mackenzie..

There is a lot to see, you'll never see it all, so just take your time and enjoy the parts you do see, its absolutely magical.
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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:21

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:21
ShnogDog, sounds like great place, deffinately have to check it out.

I like the idea of no backpackers and piece and quiet and Sandra will appreciate the toilets.

Do you guys camp on you own with you wives and/or families?

Thanks

Keith
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Follow Up By: Big Woody - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:08

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:08
Hi again Keith & Sandra,

We try to go about 3 or 4 times each year. Some of those trips may be with several of our friends (about 3 or 4 other families), 1 trip each year we sail over and camp on the north-western side somewhere between Wathumba Ck and Rooneys Point. (very remote and no other people).
But usually it is just myself, my wife and 3 kids (8, 13, & 15).

Our usual plan is to set up camp behind the dunes near Cornwells Break Road about 6km north of Eurong for 4 or 5 days. We do this beacause that gives us a day each at Lake Mckenzie, Lake Wabby, Central Station, Eli Creek and a couple of other secret spots. We do this first because you can't go to Fraser with kids and not do the best bits.

Then we pack up camp early and head north to the spot at the Ocean Lake track. This gives us time to duck in to Lake Allom on the way as the kids love catching the freshwater turtles and having races with them back into the water. (Don't tell anyone).

Once we have set up camp that is when we really start to relax for the next 8 - 10 days. The kids usually want to go to Sandy Cape every day as that is their favourite part of the Island. They enjoy walking to the lighthouse, sliding down the gigantic dune at the top of the island, but most of all the calm water swimming and Trent likes to skurf behind the car up there too. It is also worth going back to the Champagne Pools if it is not too windy but make sure you go at low tide.

As someone else has mentioned plan your day trips around the tides and head inland at high tide and do your beach miles at low tide. Also keep your tyres at no more than 18 psi and let them down on the ferry on your way over. I have been running mine at 15 psi for the last 18 years over there and have never had a puncture. Some years in the middle of summer the sand seems to change in the dry heat and turn into powder I have had to run them at 8 or 10 psi to get up to the top of the Island but most of the good old fun bits have board walks in them now so you won't have any problems.

As far as problems at the campsite I certainly wouldn't leave any valuables at the campsite but I have only ever seen and heard of problems in the regulated camping areas. I have had a torch and my gas lights stolen when camping at Lake Mckenzie once but we prefer the beach camping now anyway.

One word of caution though is don't underestimate what the Dingoes are capable of. Your food won't even be secure in the tent as they will just rip it open to get it. We keep all of our food and fridge permanently in the car now and just take it with us wherever we go. I have also personally intervened when a dingo was pouncing and biting a 6 y.o girl while she was trying to run about 300 metres up the beach to her father. They seem to have no fear of kids and some have very little fear of women so I am always aware of where Julie and the kids are and especially keep alert when they are going to the toilet at night. Julie was approached and growled at one night. If you do have problems like that though just take note of the Tag on the Dingo and advise the rangers as they know them all and when one starts to become a problem they remove it. I have not had a problem since they started to cull them a few years ago though. Really though they are not a problem. It is just like going up north with the croc's. There are just certain things you don't do and you are not really at any risk.

Give me a yell if you would like to know anything else but talking to you has given me itchy feet and wishing I was there now.

Have fun mate,

Brett

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Follow Up By: K and S - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:46

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:46
Big Woody,

Sounds like we're going to be back next year for a longer stay, and North of Waddy is looking pretty good.

Thanks for your reply, some realy good info.

Cheers,

Keith and Sandra
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Reply By: Member - AdrianLR (VIC) - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:16

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:16
K&S,

We'll be getting to Fraser on the 1st of November. Camping at Dundabarra as the kids really want a fire (although I suspect that with fire bans in place already they'll be toasting marshmallows on the gas ring). From all reports it sounds like a good spot. We've camped at Lake McKenzie before so the beach side will be a change.

Please post a report about how you went - current knowledge is always useful.

Have a great trip

Adrian
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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:58

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:58
Hi Adrian,

I was talking to a Lady from National Parks at Eurong today who said that at the moment fires are baned even in the rings so you might be right about the marshmellows :~)

Dundubara is one of the places I've been trying to find out more about, it's in the area I'd like to stay this time. I'v heard that the place can get over run with beach campers using the ammenities, but this could be during peak times.

I think we'll just have to check it all out for ourselves, it's a bit hard when you have to book in advance not knowing much about the place.

They told me that we can change our booking by phone from the island, it would be nice to know where we a staying but I'm sure where ever we end up we'll have a ball.

Keith and Sandra
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Follow Up By: K and S - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:14

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 23:14
Adrian,

I'll post a report when we get back

Keith
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 05:56

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 05:56
gid'ay k&s
dundubarra is a good spot;toilets,hot showers&well shaded(showers take 20cent coins so take plenty) if no fire bans i think it was two armfulls of firewood a day which is suplied.
cheers toohey
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Follow Up By: scottp - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:49

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:49
no fire wood supplies by epa at all. Must take yur own wood and must bee milled timber no bush wood to lessen the chance of a forign insect being introduced.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:04

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:04
K and S
Dundubara is a great campground, gets busy though. There is a lot of beach camp spots along the Eastern Beach just behind the dunes.... can't really miss them. The spot that is talked about in an above post near Ocean Lake sounds great.... we will be checking that out next trip for sure.

Please make sure you read and understand the info pack from the Rangers. And listen to what the Rangers say.... they are very helpfull and it has been our experience that following the rules means a more pleasant holiday.... There's lots to see and do, it's a very beautiful island. Lake Mackenzie is the obvious choice of the lakes but check out the others as well... they are all different and all have their own charm, and usually are quite deserted in comparison to Lake Mackenzie. We have been to Mackenzie, Boomanjin, Birrabeen, Wabby, Garawongera, Allom and several others who's names escape me now, they are all worth the visit!

Enjoy your trip there and let us know how it goes!
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Reply By: Member - Oskar (Bris) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 08:32

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 08:32
Ditto to everything said so far.
We usually head up there a couple of times each year.
I'm not sure there is much at Dilli worth visiting but others may think differently. It's a long way down the island for a quick look.
We always go via Inskip as we enjoy the long drive up the beach (gets you into the "feel" of the Island very quickly).
We prefer the beach camping by far as the sense of space between us and the next lot is something we value.
We usually camp about 3-5K south of Dundaburra as it is quite easy to drive to the camping groinds for water and showers etc, but another special place, if you can keep the sand flies amay, is Wathumba Creek. It's worth an overnighter there as it is easy to get to (western side) from Waddy and not many people camp there.
Have a great time.
Oskar
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Reply By: Member - Kevin E (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:03

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:03
Hi K & S

Woody has given a reply to your thread. Unfortunately he is somewhat out of date.

The showers at Dundaburra are now $1 for three minutes. Fires are allowed (when fire bans not in place) but only in fire rings and there are only two communal fire rings. There is no longer wopod supplied by the rangers. You can only burn sawn wood that you bring onto the island yourself. You are not permitted to burn any bush timber.

Hope this helps. By the way Dundaburra is now totally dingo fenced and the rangers strictly enforce the no feeding of wildlife. So where ever you camp all food has to be locked away. They even say the goannas feeding from dirty BBQ plates is an offence of feeding the wildlife So be careful.

Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:33

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:33
gid'ay kev
thanks for the update on dundaburra
cheers toohey.
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Follow Up By: scottp - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:53

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:53
bit of a joke really!

45 campsites at dundaburra, and only three fire rings,two of them communal,
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Reply By: Tracker Mick - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:08

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:08
KandS,
As a local Hervey Bayite and just got back from the iskand, I would highly recommend Ocean Lake area for beach camping. By far the best and no backpackers.
Wind is up here at the moment and so are the bloody flies for some reason.
Take the bushmans repellant and watch out for the backpackers driving along the beach-maniacs.
Fishing is a bit slow as there is a bit of weed around but is supposedly clearing.
If you are coming up from the south I would definitely catch the barge at Inskip Point, its cheaper and the drive up the beach, as has been mentioned - gets you in the mood.
Definitely keep valuables and food in the car with you.
Being in the know I can tell you that if its not nailed down it will go- has included boats and trailers.
Anyway I must get back to planning our next trip and hope you enjoy.
By the way did I mention to watch out for the bloody backpackers.
Have a great time.
Tracker Mick
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Reply By: K and S - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:40

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 18:40
Everyone,

That's the kind of info your just can't buy.

I've been researching this trip for a couple of months and while I did get some info from other places, most of the really useful stuff was from here on this site.

I think checking in here is the next best thing to getting out there, a kind of fix to keep you going until the next trip.
Thanks ,

Keith and Sandra
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Reply By: brett - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 19:54

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 19:54
Just back from 5 days at Dundaburra and it was a great spot to camp, particularly if you have kids, they can wander around without you worrying about dingoes. Ammenities were a bit ordinary but ok, they have nearly finished a new ammenities block, the current one only has 3 showers . We took our own shower but according to the ranger your not allowed your own but he chose to ignore ours.
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