towing a heavy caravan

Submitted: Friday, Dec 27, 2002 at 01:00
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I am thinking of towing a 2350 Kg (22') caravan (tow ball mass 250 Kg) with a NON-turbo 4.2 litre diesel Landcrusiser troop carrier (96).
I wonder if anyone had tow something similar with similar vehicle and engine and what problem I may have.
Sang
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Reply By: Member - Keith - Saturday, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:00

Saturday, Dec 28, 2002 at 01:00
Sang, I tow a 20' 2200kg van with a petrol 4500 80 series and I am very pleased with the rig. I met a bloke who was towing a 22' Coromal (probably about 23-2400kg) with a 100 series non turbo. He had just set up the rig upon retirement and intended to tour. He was most unhappy with the setup. He said that the 100 series was a 'dog' when dragging the van. I know this is second hand info, and maybe someone else on this forum has first hand experience. But I can say that when I ungrade the 80 to 100, I won't even consider a non turbo diesel.
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Reply By: Mick - Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00
Sang you will certainly need to be patient on hills! You will have no problems with the actual towing in that it is well within the weight capability of the vehicle. The non turbo is very slow by today's standards without a van behind - check out the power and torque figures on the toyota.com.au and you'll see that it's not going to be a great performer. I regularly tow 2.2 tonnes on a tandem trailer with a petrol Prado. I know it's there even with my power and torque so with the cruise you'll be very slow. Good luck with it and you'll go wherever you wish as long as you're patient ...
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Follow Up By: Sang - Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00
Hi Mick,
Thanks for your advise. I understand the troopy is slow, but is it going to be a real dog considering your Prado has 132 Kw @ 4800 and 303 Nm @ 3600 and the troopy 4.2 diesel has 96 Kw @ 3600 and 285 Nm @ a low 2200. Sorry for sounding unsure, as the only thing I had ever towed with the troopy is a trailer loaded to 1000 Kg.
Regards
Sang
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Follow Up By: Goodsy - Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:00
The troopy will be a slug towing the weight your talking about. If you have extra cash fit a turbo, it will make traveling easier. The prado with tow quicker but being a petrol will use about twice the fuel you use. Stick with the troopy it wil do everything you want it to.
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Reply By: sang - Monday, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:00

Monday, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:00
Thanks Goodsy,
What if I were to downgrade my van to say 1600 Kg tare and 2000 Kg gross, do you think I can tow it without a turbo ? I am worried about reliability with an aftermarket turbo.
Regards
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Reply By: lizard - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:00
Like a lot of things - depends on money ... if you can afford it , do it , also where do you plan to tow ? Most of Westerrn/Southern/Northern Australia is flat , so once you get up to speed the Troopie should hold it okay .... on the hilly stuff it will just have to work hard & you may have to pull over to allow traffic past , so what - you lose a little time - no hurry eh ? I had a GQ 4.2 diesel which has relatively similar outputs - towed much lighter weight okay , heavier would slow it on hills etc , but really don't think would be that much of a problem ....
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Follow Up By: Sang - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:00
Hi lizard,
We are potential grey nomad, thinking of spending next 3-5 years on the road travelling around Oz. So we don't want to compromise the longivity of the engine by turbo-charging. We are in no hurry, and time is of no importance. As long as I don't have to drop back to first gear every time I encounter a hill. I've been letting other traffic past on hilly stuff anyway as the troopy is no ball of fire even when empty. We've been travelling in our troopy (camper converted) and typically no more than 200 K per day. Just need a bit (or lot) more comfort.
Regards
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Wednesday, Jan 01, 2003 at 01:00

Wednesday, Jan 01, 2003 at 01:00
Sang, Happy new year to you. We did quite a bit of travelling in the early '80's, towing a 27' van, well loaded, with a HJ45 trayback. Did numerous trips around the Barkly Tablelands, mostly on dirt, but often on Highway. It was a slug but we always got there.

The turbo's these days seem to be more reliable than years back, but have you thought of extractors and free flowing exhaust, 2.5 or 3". Has been mentioned lately here, and some said they were pleased with result. About 25% cost of turbo, but not the grunt of course.

if you were to have a drive of turbo'd version, feel you would be rapt. We're on our 2nd turbo 80 series, and wouldn't have anything else now.
Safe travels...
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