Shocks - toughdog
Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 01:00
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I have a Jackaroo TD, and am researching for new shocks and coils to handle all the extras that I have fitted over the last two years (lr fuel tank, _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx, roof rack, water storage). Currently running on toughdogs, but as I have fitted them when I brought the Jack, I have not experienced other shocks to enable a comparison.
I have searched this
forum and the archives for discussions regarding shocks, and have found valuable information. Often it is a case of you either love a brand or hate it.
The most praises are for koni, rancho, ome and monroe.
I am surprised however that toughdog shocks were not debated in any question or answer.
Is there a reason why toughdog does not get mentioned?
Reply By: OziExplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 13:48
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 13:48
CJ, the more I see of schock absorbers, the more I stick with Monroe. I used to use previously the heavy duty KYB gas made in Japan. When they became difficult to get, we switched to Monroes, as because they had by that time come up with a decent HD 4WD shock absorber. Now, I am not saying a Monroe is up to the same standard as say a Bilstein or Koni, but while they are wearing out their Biltsteins or Koni to get their monies worth, I have stuck on another set of Monroes and consequently do not have to use them to death and suffer poor schock absorbing and the other consequences that go with it, while the other people are trying to get the last bit of value for money out of their schockers because of the exhorbent prices they paid. From last checking, you could buy a brand new pair of HD Monroe for the price of one shock absorber to get rebuilt for a Koni. Besides finding Monroe an excellent shock absorber and good value for money, I also much prefer to keep Australians' in a job. However, I would not buy the Monroe product if it was not quality and good value for money.
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Reply By: Member - John - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:25
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:25
cj, have used many brands of shocker, currently fitting Rancho 9000's to GU Ute. Have used them on GQ wagon and found them to be very good. Also used Rancho coils, very good unloaded and loaded, progressive rate spring. The adjustable feature allows you to tune for the road conditions. Only thing I will say is that they should come standard with the incab adjustment. Having used Koni, destroyed two on the Canning, Bilsteins, OME and Monroe, Rancho's are the best I have found. Never used Tough Dog so can't comment. Bye the way, Rancho's and Monroe's are made in the same factory in the states according to Rancho, just different production lines and OME are Monroe's rebranded. Sorry doesn't answer your question about Tough Dog, but hope this helps some.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:24
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:24
Monroe as fitted to 4WD's are totally made in Australia, and they only import some front struts from various countries, mostly Asia.
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Reply By: phil - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:38
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:38
I have spent 18 years all over remote Oz in mainly L/C's in both leaf and coil sprung units. I am a big fan of
suspension improvements and are currently running a full OME (400kg) set on my Troopie - very good combination. But I must say, the best results I got was when I had a Series 80 L/C and a visit to "Ultimate Suspension" in Minto, NSW who fitted a custom made set of coils/shocks to my 80 series L/C. The secret to their success was a matched set of French made DeCarbon shocks - not cheap but sensational. That was 10 years ago and I have experienced nothing like it since. The secret (only with coils) is the fact that each wheel needs additional damping to eliminate "laceration" of tyres when on dirt roads. Leaf springs are easier to control (mounted at 8 points and with heavier unsprung weight) and, in my view need less dampening but coils rely totally on the one mount and that puts additional pressure on the shocks to keep the unsprung weight under control.
Tyres are important too and need to be taken into consideration. I have always run BF Goodies, A/T and get 80,000+ with many Simpson, Cape and Gulf trips in my travels.
The bonus with the DeCarbon's is almost zero fade. Now the OME are bloody good but after the first 20 sand dunes on the Simpson, they heat up and tend to fade, so too has every other shock I've used, except the DeCarbons. Good luck with your fix.
PHIL TURNER, Australia IN-SIGHT Pty Ltd, PH: 0412335156
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Follow Up By: Cj - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:53
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 18:53
Thank you all for your replies. As noted, some swear by certain brands, others hate them.
The replies above confirms my original observation, that toughdog does not get a mention or review - good or bad!
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Reply By: tourer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:38
Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:38
Hi CJ, I have used tough dogs in my GU patrol for a few years now, I also have a second GU with OME. These vehicles do more than the average mileage on dirt roads. My money is on the Tough dogs, it seems to carry the vehicle a bit better on any road surface. I don't have a problem with axle articulation either.
By the way if you find the Jackaroo skipping across the corrugations on dirt roads, try engaging 4WD, this will pull the car around the corner as
well as push, I think you will find a noticeable difference.
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