DIY brake conrol fitment

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 15:59
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Hi all

After seeking advice on campers (from here) I've finally bought a 2nd hand Aussie Swag and now need to purchase a brake controller. I notice there are plenty of different brands and configurations out there. I have been quoted around $150 for a Hayman Reese controller and about $250 to fit it.

I figure fitting sounds expensive and was wondering if it is an easy enough job to do yourself. I have a 120 Prado.

I have also seen some trailers with the module mounted on the trailer...is this an option? or am I better off leaving it on the vehicle?

I pick it up Friday!
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Reply By: Robbg - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:35

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:35
I bought a Tekonsha Prodigy and fitted it several months ago. I believe the Prodigy is one of the better units around. It cost me $150 for the unit (on special) and a few dollars more for wire, connectors, and a circuit breaker. Wiring the unit was time consuming but straight forward. Mounting it was a bit trickier (under the dash on a Jackaroo). Some people remove their ash tray and mount them in that space - not sure whether you could do this in a 120 Prado. I wouldn't bother with units that mount on the trailer - mounting it 'in cab' allows you to adjust as necessary to suit conditions.
Rob.
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Follow Up By: tdv - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:41

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:41
Where do I buy one? TJM only sell the Hayman Reese.

Does this model have an inertia sensor in it?

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Follow Up By: pjchris - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:50

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:50
Go find a caravan shop...Most reputable ones (In Melbourne I would recommend Hardings Caravans as a reputable source of advice but not necessarily the cheapest place to buy). Even Car auto places like Autobarn and Repco sell them. Just because you've got a 4WD doesn't mean it has to come from a 4WD shop.

Most of the Caravan shops I've visited, while stocking the Hayman Reese units, don't actually recommend them, preferring the Tekonsha units.

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Reply By: Member - Kimberly Kruiser (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:44

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 16:44
tdv

$250 to fit a brake controller!!!!
What are they using, gold plated connectors?

Much better fitted inside vehicle within easy reach of driver.

I don't consider myself at all electrically mined and fitted my own peice of pish. They come with full instructions.

Cheers
Wal.
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Reply By: Patrol2 - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:00

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:00
As far as I know, Tekonsha is inertia activated. Can be a problem if needing trailer brakes going backwards eg. slippery river bank.

Hayman Rees are simply vehicle brake system operated as far as I know.

Tekonsha can be a bit aggressive applying the trailer brakes

Mount in cab if you can.

Yes, wiring is time consuming but not difficult as all instructions included, in fact the Hayman Rees instructions are the clearest.

Mounted mine in the Patrol in about 3.5 hrs, but Im not as quick as I used to be.

Regards
Mike
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Follow Up By: tdv - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:14

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:14
Thanks for the heads up about the inertia activated. I think I will stick to the basic controller like a hayman reese. I'll pick one up and fit on the weekend.

Do you know if there will be any problems towing without a controller to get the trailer home. It is under 750kg...just worried about what the brakes will do without a controller. they are ALKO electric.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kimberly Kruiser (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:47

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:47
tdv

They will do nothing without power attached.
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Follow Up By: Robbg - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:57

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 17:57
The Prodigy installation instructions claim the unit employs an 'inertial sensor', and provides 'proportional braking' (even in reverse). Some other units (can't remember which) do not provide braking in reverse.
Rob.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:00

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:00
Yep, the Prodigy definately works in reverse, requires no levelling and has a lifetime warranty... I love mine and as it's pocket mounted, I can use the same controller in both cars... just bought myself an extra pocket and loom.
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Follow Up By: angler - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:29

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:29
TDV,

Dont use the HR thing it just isnt good enough. The prodigy is so superior its just not funny. I found the braking can be adjusted for set and forget or for more active in the city just by the puch of one button. Talk about simple, they have no equal and to consider them close to the HR is rediculous.
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Reply By: Croozer - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:12

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:12
I bought and fitted the Tekonsha prodigy to our 100 series for towing our jayco dove outback, it works perfectly. The Prodigy can be mounted at almost any angle, it has various boost settings (good if you tow different trailers of various weights) and the digital readout is easy to read. I found the hardest thing was finding a good place to run the wires.
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Stu
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Reply By: mfewster - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:19

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:19
I don't disagree with any of the above, however we mounted our controller on the draw bar because more than one vehicle is used for towing our trailer. If this isn't an issue, put it inside.
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Reply By: cmilton54 - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:26

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:26
Electric trailer brakes WONT work in reverse. Magnet will be trying to go to centre of wheel not to outer circumferance of drum.
Cheers
Charlie
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:39

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:39
Hi, I have Alco electric brakes on my Jayco and you can most definetly feel them pull up in reverse using the foot brake or the manual override.
The magent will still slide on the drum and activate the " lag " brake shoes. The system I am useing is the Tekonsha Sentinal .
regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:02

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 22:02
Have to agree Bob, my Prodigy also works in reverse, both from the pedal and the override...
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:57

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:57
Fitted a Prodigy as it was recommended on the basis of it works in reverse-- I think it does based on applying only the manual lever when trying it in reverse and not applying the foot pedal.
Same discussion on another forum some time ago deduced that fitting on trailer MAY be not strictly legal. And anyway, how do you adjust on the run if it is on the trailer? And I know that we adjust ours depending upon the conditions, sometimes never, sometimes a couple of times during a particular phase of a trip. Or apply the emergency override if needed?
Rusty
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Reply By: Batboy - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 21:28

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 21:28
Tekonsha prodigy works in reverse and applies proportional braking.
It is inertia activated but even so, can still be mounted at an angle of 70 degrees
Three way boost options which is not really needed until your trailer gets up around the same weight as your tow vehicle also brakes can be manually activated.

You can get them for $150 but have to really shop around Retail price is up around the $300 mark.

Fitting mine to a GQ took about 1 hr. I ran the wiring through the fire wall then through the chasis rails to the trailer plug. Quick and easy in a patrol but don't know about a Prado though.

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Reply By: Richard & Leonie - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:24

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:24
Bought a Takonsha Prodigy on E-Bay for $175.
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Reply By: tdv - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:07

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:07
Well.....I have been convinced that the Prodigy is the way to go.Unfortunately they are hard to find around Cairns. I have been by a dealer that the same company makes them for Hayman reese and they are called a "Guardian".

Anyway I see them on ebay as suggested for $175 so will order one. Thanks everyone.

Tez
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 16:03

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 16:03
Prodigy is a way to go and yo can get them on ebay.
Mine was installed for about $200 including wiring for the battery in the CT
The best place for the brake controller is in ash tray.

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