suspension choices
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 16:10
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J.T.
Just got a quote for Lovells leaf springs for our HZJ75 troopy.$1133 rear and $561 front.Apparently they,re almost the only company who uses Aussie steel in their springs.I need to upgrade the
suspension but am so bloody confused by all the choices.I just want reasonable
suspension at a reasonable price.Add to the cost of
the springs another $1200 odd for shockies etc and things are looking pretty grim.Any thoughts/advice is most welcomed and appreciated.
Reply By: Trekkie - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 16:17
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 16:17
I recently went through the same process with my 100 series - although a very different set up to yours, after spending hours on the web and visiting quite a few
places to discuss options and get prices I ended up at ARB. Too many
places dont understand 4WD requirements and just want to flog their product.
I suppose only time will tell if my decision was correct
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Reply By: Sarg - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 17:10
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 17:10
Best to go direct to a reputable spring manufacturer, tell them what you want , & let them make it to suit. OK ,might cost a few dollars ,but at least you know that it was made locally & not some El-Cheapo overseas thing of unknown quality that seems to be the norm from most 4x4 "expert" shops.
Look at someone like this
http://www.westcoastsuspension.com.au/4wd_frames.html
www.carrolls.com.au
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Reply By: Exploder - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 17:40
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 17:40
Well that does seem a bit on the pricey side, but from memory I payed $660 for my rased 2-inch Rear Leaf Packs on the Explorer from Lovell’s and they are a lot smaller than the ones on a 75 series landcruiser,
mine are a 5 or 6 pack leaf were the 75’s are like a 10 or something.
I recon that’s the price you pay for a quality product thou, At least you know they are made in Australia with quality steel and not in China with god know what, Not to mention the service I got was also excellent and I have never heard of any bad report’s about Lovell’s.
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 18:49
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 18:49
J.T, have a look at some of the archive stuff on Aux Coil Springs to leaf sprung vehicles, I did it to my MQ many years ago and it transformed the shorty, much better ride etc. No need to replace the leaf packs. Hope this helps in some way.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew(WA) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 19:01
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 19:01
Where do you live?
If your in WA, try WA Suspensions Osborne
Park. They know their stuff.
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Reply By: TroopyTracker - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 20:46
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 20:46
JT
I've spent lotsa $ on my troopys
suspension over the years and if I was starting again, I'd do this- Keep the factory springs, fit air bellows front and back (back will be easy to find, front a little harder(google it, I came across a troopy with front back air bags). Get some decent shocks koni/bilstien etc. Fit some greasable shackles and anchor bolts with urethane bushes. Will be comfortable, adjustable and decent value in my opinion.
Matt
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 20:56
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 20:56
JT,
I was lucky enough to have Lovell springs on the Troopie when I got it just over 12 months ago.
The Troopie has done over 60,000lm since then and has always carried a lot of weight. The ride is stiff but comfortable but that is what I expected from this type of vehicle.
Lovell's have moved up
Newcastle way now but they still use BHP steel and is far better that the cheap imported springs.
Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 21:15
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 21:15
Dont go overboard with the shockies - leafs dont rely on them like coils I only knew one of my back shockies was stuffed when I was board and pulled them off to test them. I replaced them and noticed no difference
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 22:58
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 22:58
When it comes to ride, ARB have had the 70series Toyotas sorted for a long time. They gave you the choice between Aussie made leafs and overseas made "Dakar" leafs. The latter are about half the price. And they give you plenty of choices re load.
I have mates with the ARB Dakars and I've got the ARB Aussie springs, and must admit can't tell any difference yet.
Any of the local spring manufacturers can supply you with a quality set of leaf springs. The local mob in
Adelaide were very happy to supply me with heavier duty leaf springs, but they said that if I wanted better ride, to go down the road and buy ARB. I was surprised to get that recommendation from a competitor.
They say greasable shackles help too, but after the last trip where a mate's greasable shackle busted in half, I'm not sure I trust them any more.
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Follow Up By: J.T. - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 21:47
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 21:47
Thanks for everyones replies.Might bite the bullet and go Lovells.Cheers.
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Reply By: jimjam - Tuesday, Dec 06, 2005 at 23:31
Tuesday, Dec 06, 2005 at 23:31
Try Ironman
Suspension website.Ifitted these to my 75 resently but havent done any heavy work as yet but sits up okay.use the B up front and C in rear.
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