ford territory and frasier island
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 22:41
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relrod
hi all, can anyone offer advice on taking a ford territory awd to frasier, would this vehicle be up to task or am i dreaming...never been so a bit unsure if it will get around ok... thanks rod.
Reply By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 22:46
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 22:46
Sadly , i dont think so .
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Follow Up By: glenno(qld) - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:32
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:32
In my opinion if you drove the territory (which i would love to own) to fraser and drove around for a week , in my opinion you would be the greatest 4WDer the world has ever known or short of money and very tired .
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 23:00
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 23:00
I havent been to Fraser in 10 years but my lkast timew there I had to wincg a Subaru out of a situation on an ordinary track. Not sure of how powerful the Ford Territory is but high clearance is a necessity on Fraser.
I would say that you probably could do it but you wont be doing your vehicle any favours and the chances for mega hassles are rife.
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Follow Up By: relrod - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 23:13
Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 23:13
thanks for the reply, the territory has plenty of power but ground clearance it hasnt got. typical wifes shopping 4wd i guess... thanks again for your advice.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:35
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:35
Well never been there myself but a quick peruse of the trek notes reveals these (one must assume) erudite comments..
"Fraser Island is strictly four-wheel-driving territory.
This is not easy sand driving and if you intend to go, make sure you have enough sand driving experience to know that it's all a matter of reduced tyre pressures, correct revs and being mindful of the tide."
Give it a go - if you lack a bit of experience, try and team up with others who have some local knowledge and experience and maybe avoid the tricky areas (which may
well reduce dramatically areas you can get to??)
Would not be at all put off by the comments of the soothsayers of doom. “Serious” 4WDers make a habit of getting stuck/bogged, but have the gear/experience to get out and there is no reason why the owners of "softroaders" can't do the same ie get bogged and spend the rest of the day getting out..even if it is in less "challenging" terrain:). I personally would refuse all help from anyone in a red Nissan though.
Cheers
Greg
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Reply By: Big Woody - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 05:51
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 05:51
Hi Relrod,
I go to Fraser Island regularly (only live an hour away) and have seen plenty of the new Territory's over there.
The secret to Fraser is tyre pressure and power.
Sure a bit of ground clearance helps but you will have no problems on the main tracks as most of the soft bits now have board walks on the tracks. Just don't try to get to the top of the island, keep your beach driving to low tide, and keep your tyre pressure to about 15 - 18 psi max. and you will have no problems.
There are still enough Subaru's, Terios's etc. getting around on the island that would have about the same ground clearance as a Territory but a much smaller wheel diameter and nowhere near the power.
Good luck with your decision.
BW
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Reply By: OzRoamer - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 07:21
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 07:21
Hi relrod
I had a customer with a new one that towed a trailer to Fraser in Feb this year.
Whilst he had no probs on
the beach or getting the trailer to Central he did have a clearance problem whilst going up the steep hills (the ones with the timber slats/sleepers inserted the help with traction).
The customer had dramas when a section hit the undercarage and he had to be towed of the island.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 07:26
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 07:26
Here's a report from someone who took an X-Trail up there recently. I think the ground clearance on these is about the same. It may help.
Click here
Jack
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Reply By: old mate - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:22
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:22
Don't be put off by people who say don't go with the Territory, especially from people who haven't been to Fraser. I was on Fraser in August in my Pathfinder and saw quite a number of AWD "soft roaders" travelling the island with no problems. I found myself doing most of the island in 4WD "auto mode". As one previous poster said, tyre pressures and power are the go. I ran 32 psi on hard beach sand and for most of the hard tracks on the island, down to 25 psi on some of the more softer stuff with no problems. Maybe access the island from Urangan instead of Inskip Pt.
Mate go with the Territory and pack a fishing rod an have a good trip.
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Reply By: Farside - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:35
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:35
Been to Fraser numereous times, and every year I see more and more soft roaders. As long as you pick your line, have your tyre pressure right you should have no hassels.
Pack your rod and have a great time.
Angus
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Reply By: Leroy - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:40
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:40
I was up there the other week and saw a couple of soft roaders - a Terri and Xtrail. The xtrail was getting around to all the lakes and I only saw the Territory on the hard packed beach sand.
I would take it across and have a go. Tyre pressures are very important. I ended up running 16 psi around the tracks in the end as the sand was getting very hot and dry. Also momentum is your friend! If you get stuck it will be on the deeper sandy tracks.
It would be nice if you had a tow hitch on the rear for recovery and also a proper recovery point on the front of your vehicle.
We had a ball and you will too.
Leroy
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Reply By: Nick R - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:06
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:06
Went Up there in January, me in an LC80 and the outlaws in a rav with lots of plastic, the rav was fine on
the beach and would have been on most of the tracks. If a rav can do it I'm sure a territory could
NickR
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Reply By: govo - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:26
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 10:26
Hi Relrod..if you do plan a trip over there please purchase a decent snatch strap..l have lost count of the number of times l've recovered bogged 4wd's and had to use my own snatch strap...like what is said in the above posts a lot of poeple go there don't let the tires down and don't carry the right recovery gear.
l'm always ready to help out a fellow 4wd'er but it cheeses me off when i have to use my own gear to do it.
Have a good trip...govo
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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:45
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:45
Hi
Two month ago while in
Birdsville came across a group of 4WDs that had just crossed the Simpson, one was a Territory. Asked the Nissan driver who was leading the part how it went, the only
sand dune they snatched it across was Old Big Red. It had damaged the bash plate under neath but that was because the driver went across a clay pan and hit a ditch
Give it ago, lower the tyres and take a snatch strap with you.
Ray
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Reply By: Diamond (Vic) - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:29
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 12:29
im pretty sure ford done most of there testing on fraser island i think i read it in a motoring magazine.
cheers
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Follow Up By: relrod - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 18:11
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 18:11
thanks for all responses, think ill get some recovery gear, a fridge and hit the sand up there in areas suited to a territory without getting to ambitious...thanks again all.
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Reply By: ev700 - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 20:51
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 20:51
A problem with snatching out soft roaders is locating strong tow points.
I am wary of snatching out those I am unfamiliar with and these days that includes a lot of vehicles. people are very inclined to sue these days even where you were helping them at their request.
Maybe it would be useful if some day someone could publish tow points for various stock vehicles on the site.
Even better if makers could colour/label rated tow points.
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Reply By: ShnogDog - Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 23:38
Monday, Dec 05, 2005 at 23:38
Most of what I'd say has probably been covered. I agree that clearance may be a problem on some tracks, but if you take the barge from River Heads instead of Inskip, you should be fine. Before you go, may be a good idea to locate your recovery points and find out if they are good for anything more than a tilt tray (some soft roaders are only ok for tilt trays). If not get some decent revovery points fitted. Take recovery gear (snatch strap, shackles and a shovel etc.) There are only a few
places on the main routes that you may get stuck, such as passing behind
Indian Head, but you dont need to go that far up to see the lakes, rainforest etc anyway.
Myself, I wouldnt take a vehicle with low clearance over there, only because it limits where I might be able to go, but that said I've never driven a Territory. I've taken a Subaru Forester over there and had no real trouble at all. Take your Territory, you'll be fine.
Check with the rangers and other drivers about track conditions if youre going somewhere.
I'm happy to stick with my 120 series.
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:29
Tuesday, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:29
Go and have fun. Have seen a honda CRV north of narkalla rocks heading south, we have been going there for years and were surpirses. The bottom half of the island you will have very little problem, just pick your tides and tyre preassure.
crazie
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