patrol 3.0L engine expired!

Gee....

thats rare

well it's another early 3L....they're all going to expire at some time or another..
It the later ones start popping, that's when I will be concerned!!

Leroy

PS There was an early 3L at Wang nissan in pieces when I was there the other day so it doen't surprise me anymore.

Put the boost gauge in ours today - will see what reading we get over the next few days.

Have heard from reliable Nissan motor mechanics in and around Perth, that the 3.0 litre diesel motor is grossly underpowered and dont expect to get high Kilometres from them . About 170,000 then they die. The 6 cylinder 2.8 turbo is very good engine and has been known to reach 600,000 Km before needing a major overhaul. The 4.2 litre turbo is an even better donk than all of the other Nissan diesels put together. Cant compare Toyota diesels as I run only dual fuel in my V6 4Runner and that suits me just fine.

Hi All,
As I have said before the Nissan 3.0 Diesel is classed in the Europe as an old out of date lump. There is nothing advanced about the 3.0 that is not commonplace on your basic super mini which your grandma runs down to the shops in. The engine in Europe is used in tons of cars and trucks and 250,000 miles (not Km) is the norm for these engines. I cannot understand the difference between Oz and Europe. We have 3.0 Diesels producing over 200 bhp with complete reliability. Varible vane turbo again old news, so I do not get the big deal about the Nissan 3.0. If that is high technology wait to see what will come your way soon. Yes the 3.0 had design problems in the beginning, hopefully Nissan has fixed these and all is well, only time will tell. So what I am saying do NOT associate high technology engines with poor reliability, most modern engines will see 300,000 plus and more easily. If Nissan has a problem with the 3.0 it has nothing to do with new technology but just bleep poor design and i'm afraid there is no cure for incompetence as yet. I hope it is just isolated to the early models as I have a 2005 patrol. As for the 2004 model engine in pieces, I could give you a hundred reasons for that, and 99 of them could happen to any engine.

Scott

ACDC, do you know the history of it? Any MAF/fuel pump/boost etc problems prior to this? Thanks for the info.

Regds

I think that everyone has missed the point, regarding the unreliability of the 3 litre normally aspirated engine.The problem is that they were far to underpowered for the weight of the vehicle. AND THAT WAS FROM NISSAN THEMSELVES plus ALL THE NISSAN MECHANICS I HAVE WORKED WITH IN PERTH. I worked for a Nissan dealershop and saw more broken 3 litre motors than Morris 1000 engines over a 40 year lifespan. Lets use this example to show my point - as ridiculous an example if ever there was one. Fit a two litre four cylinder or 6cyl motor into a body that weighs around the 3000 Kg mark, and see how long that 2.0 litre motor will last. Now put the latest Ford F250 , all seven+ litres of it into that same Patrol, and how long will that last. Probably a 900,000 Km . But no matter what , the argumnet willl rage on for years to come. Same as the age old argumnet which is the better two cars Holden or Ford - neither, as Toyota out sold the two combined two, for 2005 and is still Australias best selling vehicle. And personally I dont care much for the styling of the new Toyota range let alone the new Hi-Lux. They guy who desgined that must have had far to much to drink the day he designed it. Its hideous to say the least. More like it was designed for the yank market. My go anywhere V6 4 Runner is basically unstoppable and isnt fitted with all the latest electronic crap that can go so easily wrong in the bush. Plus its only done 120,000 Km. Good for another 400,000 by which time I`ll be burried in some cemetry - along with the car!!!

Three to date since the beginning of January. All had exceeded 170,000. Mainly bearings - both main and big ends. The 6 cyl 2.8 turbo diesel is a better motor in terms of longevity

I guess this debate is going to go round in circles - getting nowhere fast. Its a sad fact of life that the 3litre diesel was a lemon- PERIOD Maybe Nissan hasnt worken to to the latest technology coming from Germay with the common rail diesel plus all the other goodies that we can expect here in about a gazillion years time. Then perhaps there will be no such thing as BAD diesel. Problem is, for the non mechaniaclly minded person, if something goes wrong with your fancy common rail diesel and all the electronics - who the hell is going to fix it whe you are out on the Canning Stock Route - to name but a few when the electrics shuts down.

I`ll just stick to my dual fuel V6 4Runner. To date touch wood, nothing has ever gone awry or broken down in the outback. I do carry a spare stater motor, alternator, waterhoses, break hoses ( in case) fan alternator and airconbelt. A fuel filter and a spare fuel pump and a starter solenoid.

Good luck with all your endeavours in sorting out the problematical 3 litre diesel

Two new heads were replaced under Toyota`s world wide recall back in `97 and so were the stearing arms and idler arms etc under another factory world wide recall about September. I cant complain about the Toyota after care recalls that were all fixed under factory warranty recall BIG MARKS FOR TOYOTA IN THAT RESPECT. Just a pity about the pricing of their spare parts. Must be making 800% profit on them. Othersie a bloody good vehicle for just the wife and myself

Would the 3.4 litre Toyota V6 fit under the bonnet of the V6 4Runner Personally I cant see why not as its only thebore and stroke that have been modified. Plus a the new Prado six speed gearbox, that would make it a reasonbly more powerful motor and probably drink less fuel, due to thefact that its not being worked so hard. ?????? Just curious

Have given serious thought to putting in the new 3.4 litre motor mated to the 6 speed gearbox. Could be a good combination and would certainly have more get up and go.

Yes, hello mate, I was just wondering if you could let me know the outcome of your dillema, I have a 2001 3 lt T/D {970000 K'S} and when I was in Albany the other week I was talking to the salesman about the amount of 3lts that have blew up and what if anything Nissan would do for you, he told me that Nissan were tightening up on compensation for the owners of those cars and he said they were now offering only 50 PC of what it cost to rebuild, which is still outragous, at the end of the day all you can do is keep it serviced every 10,000 K's and it should last you for 4 or 500000 K's if not more !!! anyhow it will be good to see just how Nissan handle this , we look forward to hearing from you,
good luck mate,
regards,
Dave