where can i find a previous discussion on choosing ipf, lightforce, narva lights

Hey Bonz,
Quote: "I have seen HID inserts for Patrols"...........
Are you talking about GU inserts of a HID type? If so, do you know what brand they are/were, please?
Cheers mate
Roachie

Yes Bill GU ones. Nick Mannell has them on his comp truck. Call Mannell Motors and ask for Nick, he should be able to steer you in the expensive direction, they were quite spectacular

www.mannellmotors.com.au I believe

go for it

Thanks Bonz
Mum's the word mate; okay???? ..... I just ordered a set of xenonoz inserts!!!
Cheers
Roachie

Are we talkin' about a simple H4 globe replacement kit (insert), or a complete headlight replacement here?? (yeah, yeah, I know 'bout the ballasts etc).... High & low beam, or low beam only (as many of 'em appear to be)??.. Watts???..... DOLLARS??????

Catch ya later.....
Ed. C.

AFAIK Ed.C. (lots of dots there) they are complete headlamp replacements, the reflectors on Nicks GU looked much snazzier than my GU's. So I would say its full units, Roachie will no doubt elucidate

These are just the globes, wiring loom and ballast packs (separate one for each side). They fit into the back of the existing headlight, just like replacing a normal globe. The ballast pack can be mounted remotely a couple of feet away and there is NO wiring cutting, slicing etc required. The plug that comes off the back of the original globe simply plugs into a lead that goes to the ballast pack, then another cable goes from the ballast pack to the HID globe. The globe is High/Low beam. Fifteen ninety five.

Thanks blokes....
Actually been lookin' at a coupla these conversion kits on ebay (mild curiousity at this stage)....
One in particular which the seller claims to use German-made Osram burners (globes), & Jap-made ballasts, so presumably the quality of these should be ok (maybe)....
Roachie, I presume you'll be postin' a report when ya get yours fitted up & workin'???

Catch ya ater... Ed. C.

Okay blokes......Xenon HIDs are now up and running...did it last night. Hardest part was getting the air box, dual battery cradle etc out, so that I could get clear access to the back of the left light. I mounted the ballast for the left light right beside the light (next to the radiator). The one on the right was a bit easier to do and I mounted the ballast pack on a bracket which is attached to the inside of the mudguard, so that the ballast sits in the hollow made by the shape of the windscreen washer bottle. The cables supplied would allow the ballast to be located a bit further away if need be.
I took it for a short test drive last night and they are certainly bright and white. But I still think the Lightforce 240s are necessary.
As regards the 240's, I've just broken another couple of laws this morning, by mounting them up on the roof rack. I haven't tried them there yet (obviously; as it's still daylight...doh!!!), but all seems as though it should be okay. If Mr Plod pulls me up, I'll say they are for off-road use only. Then I've just gotta hope I don't have one coming towards me out on the highway some night ;-))
Cheers
Roachie

Thanks Roachie....
Is there a noticeable *actual* increase in light output, or is it more of a "perception" due to the whiter "colour temperature"???
Is there any "bluish tinge" to the light?? (this actually reduces light output, IMO)....
(wish I could see a set o' these workin' so I could determine if they're worth the $$ outlay)....

Catch ya later...
Ed. C.

G'day Ed,
At this stage it is difficult to tell, as the drive I did was only in some back streets here in town.
However, they are definitely much brighter than standard, which is what I was looking for as it is always a pain when you dip down for oncoming traffic and can't see a bloody thing on low beam.
There is no blue tinge that I can tell........but the Lightforce 240s are definitely YELLOW by comparison. I've been thinking of getting a pair of blue covers for the 240s as they are supposed to make the light "whiter".
As to whether the difference is noticeable enough to justify the $$$, well you'll just have to make a trip over here and see them for yourself!!!!! hahahahaha Now, when is that next EO get-together???
Cya mate
Roachie

Ed from what I have seen theyre a white light, not bluish at all which I agree diminishes usable light and seeable light from my experience.

My besy experience with lights was as the start marshall on Stage 1 (night) of the 05 Outback challenge, got to see all types (55 in all) of lights and setups, but also got to see the pattern they threw, some were very "spotty" others washed the area with even intense light. Nicks GU with the HID headlights and spotties was the latter, bright and very easy to see things, not bluish at all.

Not sure if I can ante up the dollars though. I have 100/130 halogen in my GU headlights and am very happy with them on the high beam low beam thing Roachie is talking about.

Roachie, go the blue lenses they will definitely change the output to more like the HID's

Well ya never know, Roachie......
Eldest son lives in Perth, so SWMBO & I *always* have a ready-made "excuse" to travel over that way.. although nowadays we prefer to travel "through the middle", a detour via your locality is never out of the question.... (next time, maybe:-))))..........

Might head over to ebay & check out the HID conversions there:))

Catch ya later....
Ed

G'day Bonz,
Thanks for that....
(I got sidetracked while "talkin" to Roachie, & your post came in while I was "out":-))))
Catch ya later.....

Russ36 i upgraded the headlight bulbs to IPF Fatboys and went with L/force XGT 240's thay do the job very well.

Dave.

"unless you have really good headlights which the 2004 hilux's don't"

Amen to that. The dashboard lights are brighter :)))

Still hoping for an early 'Lightforce' Chrissy present LOL

Qik60,

Tend to agree. Have'nt actually seen the HID lights in operation but they are well beyond my budget and requirements anyway. Can just imagine my mood if the light fingered brigade decided to borrow them :((((

Serious Gramps, have done a night run up Toolangi, 3am, no moonlight was dark as Kamals ring... This dude was doing the steps, and Ive never seen light like these HID's. Almost TOO much if possible.

If I won lotto I'd get some, but until then...

Thanks Truckster. Mate, I don't doubt their effectiveness given what I've read on this Forum in a number of posts but like you, Lotto is my best chance LOLOLOL