Slide on camping box.

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 07:45
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I would like to put a solid camping box on the back of a tray back Landcruiser.
I would really like to have a sleeping space inside.
All of the slide on campers made commercially seem to be
*too big/heavy/bulky, have the sleeping space in a fold-out tent, have poor access from outside, require you to climb into the camper to access anything. All of these aspects give me a problem.
Has anyone found a solution that yields a compact and well made camping box with sleeping space inside?
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Reply By: dags666 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:14

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:14
Chris where do you live' there is a place in Brisbane at Albinon 5 ways next to Leo Muller makes them out of aluminum checker plate to any size you like I pretty sure the company is national just found the brochure try www.toolboxcentre.com.au Dags
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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:58

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:58
Dags, thanks for the name, the web site looks interesting and Toolbox Centre has a rep in NSW.
Chris.
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Reply By: roofscooter2 - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:15

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:15
hi chris,i believe uncle Fester had one, found it very comfortable,there are several manufacturers do a search for traytop campers there are some good ideas. i have been looking at them for a while now as soon as i can sell the winnie i will. Obriens do one,as do heaslip, adventure campers looks the way to go for me at this stage , bob.
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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:23

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:23
Thanks for the tips bob,
Chris
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:46

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:46
chris,

Check out out Trayon Campers. We have friends who have had one on a Triton ute, for over 10 years. Yeah, you have to climb into it, and unfold it, but offers no wind resistance, when travelling, so would help fuel economy.

Only problem I can see, is the need to pack up, if you wish to drive anywhere.

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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:24

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:24
The Trayon looks well made, thanks for the tip Bob.
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Reply By: phil - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:57

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 13:57
Hi,
A friend made one from recycled freezer panels (Metal outside with foam core) and a poptop roof. It has room for a bed and kitchen with storage. All inside, so this may not suite you.
If you are looking to do it yourself it is a possibility.

Don't know where you are but this one is in Uralla, NSW (near Armidale).

I have gone a different route by having a slide in kitchen/storage unit down one side and using the drop side as a bench with chains to hold it horizontal. This leaves room for a double mattress on the tray on the other side . I have a solid roof and vinyl sides for access and it all lifts off to leave the tray for normal use.The roof sits on the existing front load bar and rear carry bar.

I could email a photo if you are interested in this approach.

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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:09

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:09
Thanks for the thoughts Phil, food for mulling.
Chris
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 14:21

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 14:21
I build a box like that years ago from foam sandwich panels or coldroom panels what every you like to call it. You can build whatever you like and the panels are 1200 wide but you can get whatever length you need.
Make sure it is tall enough so you can sit upright inside. I was going to build another one with lift up sides so you get plenty of air for us here in Queensland.
I used it heaps on Straddie and going bush.
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Reiner
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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:11

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:11
Thanks for the thoughts Reiner, your comments about enough room to sit up is also one of the problems to sort out. Your camper looks cute.
Chris
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 17:08

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 17:08
Chris depending where you are for that sort of thing there are a number of manuacturers that could do what you want. The one I have is a bit long and heavy but is good enough to set up a king sized bed inside it under cover. Mine is made by Metalfrom Industries in Warragul, Victoria and they have made them for people internationally. They have them in several states too.

There is a bit of detail with my rig pic if you click on it you can read a bit more.!MPG:7!

The tent clips on the side so you get access under cover and it can be set up in minutes.
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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:22

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:22
John,
Your rig comes the closest to my dream.

There was a similar unit featured in one of the 4WD mags during 2005, one with a pop-top and bed up there. I think it was also made by Metalfrom Industries

Do you have a photo of your module from the side with the door open?

I was hoping to divide the module into storage space below and bed up high. If the storage space below was say only 250-300mm high would there be enough room for a bed above that storage in your module?

Can you tell me what was included in the basic Metalfrom Industries module and how much it cost to have made? Did they custom make your module. Is it well made. Is it aluminum or colorbond? Is it dust resistant?

I am still hoping to get away from the tent thing.

Sorry for all the questions, your unit just looks so good and I believe my dream may just come true.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 22:59

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 22:59
Chris this was made nearly three years ago and wsa the beginning of their run of camper boxes I think. When ours was on the stands the week we picked it up they told us it would have been sold four times if we had wanted. I hope I can show you some of the pics here that I have on the laptop. I warn you it is heavier than you may like though and the more storage you put in the more weight you carry.

Your questions - it was about 10k at the time I think but we added things like the Oztent which we store strapped up under the roof on the drivers side. It is well made and I don't know how many of their brochures I have handed out. there are several pics of our box in their current brochure. I have been stopped in the street locally, up in Queensland in the Glasshouse Mountains, in a supermarket car park in Yass to have questions asked, that is aside from locals that come to the farm to look to model something on it.

It was custom made but is a tool box and IS used for farm service. Dents and scratches to prove it. I have aluminium checker plate along the side to cover deep gouges from fence wire at night. It is painted colourbond and has been quite dust resistent. Stuff all comes past the seals.

We have used it without sides or ends on the tents in warm conditions like the Gawler Ranges in March.

We can get up, have a cooked brekkie, wash up and get on the road in an hour even with a tent to pack. The tent comes out first - or after the shadecloth underfloor erected and then we unload. Seldom peg it or poles.
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My email is with the rig pic Chris
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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:57

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:57
John,

Thanks for the extra photos and explanations, your unit looks just like our dream.

At the present time we have a 1998 Discovery TDI which we have fitted out for us to sleep in the back, having removed the rear seat, so we refined the idea of a sleeping platform and storage space under like yours. We have been three weeks on the Simpson and the Alice area and at another time five weeks along the Canning with the Disco, but it is just too cramped and we are getting too old to have our style cramped.

We have used an Indel-B drawer fridge that is only 250mm high. This will go under the bed, as with all of the other gear. We think your steel _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx look a good idea also.

Thanks again, we'll be looking out for you along the track.

Chris and Ann
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:13

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:13
Steel _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx are heavy Chris, but we have aluminium checker plate under the mattress whish isn't apparent in the photos.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 17:15

Sunday, Jan 15, 2006 at 17:15
Chris,

You'll see other peoples setups on Traytop Camping email group

I had the same issues as you regarding weight - want to be able to do the really bad tracks., But sleeping inside wasn't something we needed to do - so still swag it most trips and a quick erect tent when needed.

So we had the aluminium box built by GSV in Adelaide out of 3mm Aluminium which has been coated in white two-pack. The box has exceeded our expectations - it reflects heat nicely - even on the hottest days, and is totally dustproof. We've considered simply adding a rooftop tent if the need for sleeping off the ground were to arise. We have hinge up side doors which provide shelter and shade.

The Trayons are the pick of the ready made campers - nicely built and light. Can't get interested in the fold out tent arrangements - still too much like hard work to me, and you have to pack it all up if going for a drive. Some of them are removable from the tray, but to do so needs 4 heavy jack up legs - its all extra weight to me.

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Follow Up By: Chris Drew - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:51

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 21:51
Phil, Thanks for the tip about Yahoo, I have sent in an application to join. Hope to learn some more from the Traytop Camping group.

Do GSV make custom units or do they come off the rack? I believe that I need to make the module just a little taller than yours. Was your module expensive and what was included in the price?

I am thinking of improving the seats in my 79 series, do you recommend the Recaro seats? Do they have a suspension system and are they what is needed for the rump on long and corrugated trips?

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:37

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 17:37
Hi Chris,

GSV are a smallish company in Wingfield Adelaide. If you go to Albert (the boss) with a drawing of what you want, they will make it. Its all custom work, but the quality of their stuff is superb.

My canopy cost $5720 about a year ago, and then I fitted out the inside myself. So for that price, I got the "box" with flip up doors each side on struts, and nice quality locks all round, finished in 2 pack to match the vehicle.

The variaous _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx I've added have been made frrom ply, and I use Hettich runners. Other framework and roofrack is steel mesh or ply.

I bought 2nd hand Recaros ($600 pair) and had them fitted by a seat shop ($290 each). They are very comfortable on a long trip. The only downside is that the side of the seat is a little high, so you have to step up over it instaed of just sliding into the seat - but its just something you get used to. They don't have a suspension system.

I'm using Old Man Emu suspension and I went for stronger springs than what they wanted to sell me. I've very happy with the ride which is now better than I'ver had on other 4wds. I think the longer wheelbase of the 79series helps on the rough roads.

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