Magazine Technical Accuracy

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Hi,
Have just read the article starting on p 189 of Feb 2006 4WD Monthly about UHF antennae.
Firstly, doesn't the top right photo on p 190 show a HF automatic tuning antenna? Looks very much like a Barrett 910.
Secondly, the inconsistent terminology, antenna / aerial, annoys the hell out of me. Antennae receive and transmit, aerials receive only.
Their lack of rigour amazes me and seems to be a common occurence.
Jon W
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Reply By: smegzy - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:58

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:58
Couldn't agree more JW, I don’t buy any motoring mags for this reason. I find they are purely advertising propaganda for car manufacturers.

I have always found it funny that every vehicle they test is "excellent" in some respect. They even gave the Lada Niva "4wd of the year" in the late 80's.

As for the accessory articles, you said it! I have yet to find a article that even comes close to providing the information that you can find on the internet in 5 minutes.

Anyway thats my morning grump out of the way.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:03

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:03
Lada Niva hahahaha

damn I thought the P76 getting car of the year was bad!!
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:29

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:29
At least the P76 was the first car produced in Australia to have disc brakes as standard.
You could get them on the others but they had to be specially ordered. Some drivers didn't like them because they were "too sharp"!!!!!! They probably meant they stopped quicker than the old rubbish they were used to.
Alan H.
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Reply By: Member - David 0- Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:08

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:08
It seems some disagree with you

an·ten·na (?n-t?n'?)
n., pl. -ten·nae (-t?n'?).
Zoology. One of the paired, flexible, segmented sensory appendages on the head of an insect, myriapod, or crustacean functioning primarily as an organ of touch.
Something likened to this sensory appendage, as in function or form: sensitive public relations antennae.
pl. -nas. A metallic apparatus for sending or receiving electromagnetic waves.

aerial
Or did you mean: aerial (dance move), Aerial (album), antenna (in electronics)

Dictionary
aer·i·al (âr'?-?l, ?-îr'?-?l)
adj.
Of, in, or caused by the air.
Existing or living in the air.
Reaching high into the air; lofty.
Suggestive of air, as in lightness; airy.
Unsubstantial; imaginary.
Of, for, or by means of aircraft: aerial photography.
Botany. Growing or borne above the ground or water: aerial roots.
n. (âr'?-?l)
A radio ANTENNA, especially one suspended in or extending into the air.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:09

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:09
and

transmitting aerial - an electrical device that sends or receives radio or television signals
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:55

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:55
Of interest is that the 3 vehicles in a couple of those photos.....The one with the HF nuit on the back belongs to EO member "GERK SA".....another piccy is of 3 vehicles approaching in convoy up a dirt track....the 4bys belong to Gerk, Me and Pesty!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:41

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:41
Roachie, what are you thinking we are thinking, of the magazines credibility now? You, Pesty and GERK.......
Cheers,
Who?
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Reply By: banjodog - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:24

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:24
JW, your post should be “Magazine Technical Inaccuracy”. This won’t be the last of these sort of things either – I’ve, and no doubt others have, observed lots of “technical inaccuracies” in this magazine – hence, I too have stopped buying them.

Some photos the article refers to of a vehicle / product review is wrong or the photo was reversed – i.e. – steering wheel on the left side, photo stating it's an underside of a Navara when it’s a Rodeo etc etc – doesn’t anyone edit the mag before printing? This sort of thing is off-putting – if a simple photo is wrong, one would have to suggest the accompanying information is wrong too. The major chop on the back of the "Milo" - where's the mention of a modification plate for that as the chassis is shortened? Too many knee jerk stories to fill up the pages I feel.

Can you get a refund back on the magazine because it’s technically faulty / inaccurate? Doubt it. I’ve got to be accurate every day in my job or it’s a please explain – I can’t get away with it, so why should the staff of this or any other mag let slip.

At nearly $9.00 a month for a glossy mag with 50% advertisements and references as to how much grog needs to be consumed to fix a flat tyre is a totally childish and irresponsible image to portray to the general public. And they just love to Pat (no pun intended) themselves on the back as to how wonderful they are at being number one 4wd magazine – again. Boring.

Enough said.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:13

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:13
Don't start me on magazines ..........................*/%.>#@+?.<^=
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Follow Up By: gramps - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:38

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:38
Banjodog,

"glossy mag with 50% advertisements" - which edition was that? Have they lost most of their sponsors to only fill 50% with adverts :)))))

Willie,

Calm, calm, calm. You know it's not good for your blood pressure brother :)))
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Follow Up By: banjodog - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:45

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 13:45
Gramps, haha, too funny. Yes it does appear to be more than that at times.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:24

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:24
Hi Brother ,
The blood pressure is always down so no worries there . I went to the doctor this morning and he said there is something constricting something in my wrist which gives you pins and needles in your hand . It certainly has given me a pain in the AR5E ! It happens to old farts apparently .
Stock market crapped itself this morning , daughter is pregnant , windmill blew over last night , but my wife ran off with a travelling salesman so the news is not all bad .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: gramps - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:33

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:33
ROFLMAO

You always were the comedian of the family Willie. Glad to hear things are looking up for you LOL

I think the quack will have me condemned/committed next time I visit. But then again he might just fall off his chair when I walk in. He thought I was a lost cause years ago :))))
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:34

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 14:34
.......along with all their "factual inaccuracies".................................
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Follow Up By: techie - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:45

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:45
Willie - you have carpel tunnel.(wrist)
Had it myself in 95. quick op and no use of hand for 4 weeks - as good as new.
Before op couldn't use a hammer without it flying out of my hand- great afterwards.
hint - practice wiping bum with other hand b4 op, you can't use usual hand for six weeks.
Techie.
ps windmill - in epping??

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Follow Up By: gramps - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:50

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:50
Techie could be right Willie. Probably from spending too much time on your PC looking at the Stock Market and this Forum :)))))
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 13:09

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 13:09
Thanks Techie,

I got home and forgot what it was called .The bride stood there with hands on hips "surely you can remember what he told you was wrong ".

It's a big long name for God's sake . I have to go see a nerve specialist .

If I can't use my hand for six weeks , I won't go and see him till the end of July as I have got big trips on from mid April till then .

Thanks for the info ,

Willie
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 13:29

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 13:29
Gramps ,

When I told the bride I had a saw wrist , she just told me to change hands .

Then she tells me it will go well with my tunnel vision .

She works to keep me living in the way I have grown accustomed , so I can't say too much .

Markets up again today and the world is a beautiful place again .

Do you think we really are brothers ? I have given up on the identical twins theory - you don't have my good looks .

Willie .
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Follow Up By: gramps - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 14:40

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 14:40
Willie,

Bloody hell, it's even scarier than I thought. WE may not be identical twins but I'm convinced our wives are LOLOL
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 15:31

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 15:31
If you want to talk about technical inaccuracies what about newspapers??!! They are absoultely full of articles that are typically BS or have inaccurate facts. Just look at all the 4x4 bashing articles they have. Yet we all still read the paper daily or time to time.

If we refuse to take in anything that is technically incorrect then we shouldn't listen to 90% of the people working in 4x4 shops (jeez I've heard some cr*p come from these jopints), car dealers, politicians etc etc either!!! The skill is to be able to sort the BS from the fact and learn. Unless you believe that you know everything, then the only way to learn is to read and DO and find out for yourself.

I mean I could stop visiting this site because of some of the BS information that gets sprayed across the pages - but I do read it daily because every now and then I LEARN something and most of the time I get a laugh.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 15:56

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 15:56
aerial (RADIO) Show phonetics
noun [C] (US ALSO antenna)
a structure made of metal rods or wires which receives or sends out radio or television signals
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Reply By: ev700 - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 17:36

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 17:36
Aerial is of British origin and antenna is of US origin. So tecnically we should use the former, aerial.

Antenna crept into use in Oz about when TV got going. Presumably the americanisation of our language and habits was acceparated by the coming of the box.

Here is a useful link: http://www.krysstal.com/ukandusa.html
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Follow Up By: JW - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 20:33

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 20:33
OK Folks,
I have hoisted the white flag. I was, incorrectly apparently, quoting what I was taught 20 years ago on an Army radio course. Thank you to the wordsmiths who have clarified the terminology for me (despite the spelling mistakes).
It was mainly the inconsistency of the terminology within the article that irritated me.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 22:02

Wednesday, Jan 18, 2006 at 22:02
JW
No problem, I can sometimes spell but my fingers can't.

We are all confused and it will only get worse with the americanisation of the web.

I wish they'd be consistent too.

EV700
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 19:46

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 19:46
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Follow Up By: JW - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:27

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:27
Should I be able to see the light now?
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