Stoopid oil filter

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:37
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Hi All

Got game and decided to to do an everything change for the first time ever.

2 days later and a ring spanner and hammer....i got the sump plug out. Kewl.

Tried to remove oil filter...wouldnt budge. Changed air filter..no Probs.

Tried to remove oil filter again...still wont budge. Went down the road (on the push bike...bus has no oil :) ) borrowed a strap style oil filter remover.......yeah right that worked hey....NOT.

Short of dynamite can anyone tell me another way of removing the filter.

As Im lying under the vehicle Iam trying to turn it anti clockwise is that the way it should unscrew.

Thanks in advance.

Frustrated (doesnt help that I quit the smokes 10 days ago either lol)
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:40

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:40
I have the chain type remover, if that fails, I use sc rewdriver and a hammer... Big mofo flat blade, hammer through the filter(can be messy) and use the screwdriver as leverage to turn the bugger.
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Reply By: SteveL - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:44

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:44
If all else fails,(i.e. last resort) drive a large screwdriver into it with a hammer and use that as leverage.Use something to catch the oil as it will probably go in all directions.-Steve
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:45

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 17:45
blue beat me to it.
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Reply By: lindsay - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 18:46

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 18:46
When you put the new one on only do it hand tight, then look for leaks after you start it and again after the oil warms up. People do them up with a wrench and they are impossible to take off without destructing them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 22:17

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 22:17
yep the first sercice you do to your new (second hand) vehicle is often a PITA as diff plugs have been done up to 10,00000000 ftp and all filters have been screwed on harder than a cheap hooker. Funny thing is after you get past that you find such force is not needed on everything to keep fluids in check. I can undo my oil filter by hand and diff and g/box plugs come out easily
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Reply By: Eddy - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 18:46

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 18:46
With all due respect, I reckon you should take your truck to a mechanic as it sounds
like in trying to save $50 you might cost yourself thousands.

p.s. Leave the brakes alone!
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Follow Up By: Member - Johno (Gold Coast) - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 22:16

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 22:16
Yeh he probably could take the 4by to the mechanics but there is a real sense of pride in servicing ones own vehicle. I have just changed the fuel filter on my Triton for it's 30000 km service (everything else is for that service just needs checking) under the watchfull eyes of the mechanics at work. Now I'm no mechanic, I just have an office job but once instructed what to do it's pretty straight forward and rewarding.

Imagine what Mitsubishi would charge for that service $600?
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:14

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:14
Johno,
my 30K service was $173.00.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:16

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:16
I hate it when I hit submit by accident...

OK, Johno again... $600+ for the 90K service as this entails a cam belt change, half the bloody motor has to be removed for that one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Johno (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 21:38

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 21:38
Blue was that 30k service done by Mitsubishi? If so you must have a good one, because the one and only time I've taken my car into their service department was for them to have a look at some oil dampness around the main bearing seal thinking that this would be under warrenty. They found the source to be a rocket cover that wasn't tightened, cleaned the offending oil and charged me $100 for their effort.

I bought the car second hand with 15k on the clock, so I can't say what mechanical repairs it needed since new, but I would have thought none. They could have done this minor repair for free because I think it would have come from the factory with that fault. This has since put me off getting the log book service done by them and now do the basics at work myself and will have the 45k, 90k etc done by a non Mitsubishi mechanic.

I can't fault the car though, I'de by anouther one when the time comes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:05

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 23:05
Yeah Johno, it was done by Knox Mitsubishi here in Melbourne. I was suprised as I'd been looking at L200 Forum and although the majority of vehicles there are diesel, the figures for servicing all seem to be between about £380 to £470... That translates to bucket loads of Australian $$... My minor(15k, 45k, 75k) services have all come in around $140-$150... The majors(30k, 60k) were $173. the 90k(a few weeks ago) was upwards of $600, as I said previously, the timing belt has to be changed at this service. i am obliged to get dealer services as the car is on a novated lease, at these prices i reckon I'll just let them do those that fall beyond the term of the lease.

Like you, I can't fault the car and when this lease is up, I'll be leasing another one... Have you seen the new shape...???

Triton Pics

It's in German but the pics tell a nice story, in my opinion...
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Follow Up By: Member - Johno (Gold Coast) - Monday, Jan 23, 2006 at 20:49

Monday, Jan 23, 2006 at 20:49
Blue it's a completely different car, new common rail DI engine, new coil sprung front suspension, no bonnet scoop unfortunatly, but all in good. When is the release date for Australia?
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Jan 23, 2006 at 20:57

Monday, Jan 23, 2006 at 20:57
Johno I haven't heard the release date for here... Due for release in Europe this coming March so I guess end of this year or early next for Aust... We are apparently getting the 3.2DiD and not the problematic 2.5... Of course this is hear say and unconfirmed by Mitsubishi.
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Reply By: Member - Russell B (SA) - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 19:01

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 19:01
Been there done that, the Terrano Oil filter was a real B####$tch to get out, a mill clearance when you finally loosened it. If they have to be changed so often WHY MAKE IT SO DIFFCULT TO REMOVE, (thats shouting). I couldn't get the Charade's oil filter out and can't even find the Pajeros. Luckily the Pajero is still under warranty and has to be serviced by authorised mechanic.

Have fun y'all

Russell
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Follow Up By: Fab - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 20:23

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 20:23
As a mechanic, my moto is you can always tighten something up a little more, but you can't do f-all once it's stripped, or in your case siezed. The screw driver and hammer trick works well.
Also REPCO (Rip Every Poor C##t Off) sell great little oil filter remover tools. They are spring loaded and clamp over the top of the filter, then using either a 1/2 inch or 3/8 inch ratched or breaker bar, you loosen the filter. The vice like jaws of the tool tighten the more you leaver on it.

P.S. Use to work for a major Toyota dealer in Adelaide. Saw an old mechanic there tighten an oil filter using a rattle gun. I couldn't believe my eyes until one day I saw him doing up head bolts with the same gun.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:02

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:02
Holy Chit!!!! Imagine his aprentice.? HaHa
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Reply By: Sir Diamond - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:13

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:13
As Im lying under the vehicle Iam trying to turn it anti clockwise is that the way it should unscrew.
remember you were looking upside down so every thing is backwards
so you were in fact tightening it.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:42

Thursday, Jan 19, 2006 at 21:42
Most filters are a PITA

GQ has 2 right next to one another. I have a jaw type remover.

X Trail has one but you have to remove the right hand front wheel and a body cover to get to it with a chain type remover. Filter is size of a Vegemite jar.

Yes you were tightening it......hahahahahaha
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Reply By: Sarg - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 00:31

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 00:31
In 99.9% of cases just remember : LEFT = Loose Right = Tight. Got it??? lefty loose, righty tight
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:20

Saturday, Jan 21, 2006 at 14:20
Watched a bloke some time ago trying to use your rationale to seperate his 9kg gas bottle from his BBQ... Nearly gave himself a heart attack he was straining that hard... His wife came out and clipped his ears and showed him how to do it... I laughed so hard I nearly wet my pants...
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Reply By: ozdragon - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:11

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:11
Thanks to all that offered advice.

As it turned out I was turning the filter in the correct direction.

A friend lent me a chain tool to remove the filter...use with a ratchet. Worked great. Oil change done.

Replaced the air filter.......painted on in white letters New 335,027km. The speedo now reads 407,000km.

once again thanks for all the help

Peter
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (SA) - Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 13:19

Friday, Jan 20, 2006 at 13:19
Everyone has forgotton the key to preventing the oil filter (or any other filter with an o-ring) binding up - PUT SOME FRESH OIL ON THE RUBBER O-RING BEFORE FITTING. If you put the filter on without lubing the o-ring it will definately bind up due to the heat and breakdown of the rubber against a bare metal surface.

I never use a oil filter wrench and never have a problem.
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