Pathy v Challanger

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006 at 22:36
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Hi, New to forum,
Looking to get 4x4 to tow caravan on extended trip to QLD and NT 6 to 10 wks mostly main roads some dirt and short off road 2 adults 2kids
We like both Pathfinder 2000 - 02 and the Chalenger 00-02
will use 4x4 as family car on return whats good and not so good on both?
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Reply By: Member - t0me (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:40

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:40
I can tell you that the fuel economy of the Challenger beats that of the Pathfinder, principly because the engine is slightly smaller.
I preferred the seating in the Challenger to that of the Pathfinder of the same year.
I believe the Pathfinder performs slightly better off road.

The challenger 00 is an excellent towing vehicle having leaf springs at the back. I have read that the later models are very good too. Up to 00 it was based purely on the Triton chassis and in that it is tough.

When going through the same decision I chose the Challenger and the missus and I are very happy with our car. 3L V6 with bullbar, averages 13.5L/100kms for us.

The turning circle isn't so crash hot. Its offroad ability doesn't match that of full time / full size 4wd's, but imo unless you're getting a Prado then all the other mid-size 4x4's are much of a muchness for that and the largest limitation to their offroad abilities is sitting behind the steering wheel, not in the mechanics of the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: 1812 - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 21:30

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 21:30
Thanks for your imput the fuel economy is a big factor. As we are first time 4x4 owners the limitations will be restricted to the nut on the steering wheel as you say. Will be towing a Windsor Rapid van so will only be doing short off road trips from a base.
The pathfinder was slightly infront but after looking a the challenger more its a close race.
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Follow Up By: Mike from Northside 4 Wheel Drive Club - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 22:56

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 22:56
I would put my Challenger up against a Pathy off road any day of the week but for what you are going to use it for, either will do you just fine. The Pathy has a bigger engine so may suit towing more. I found my Challenger great on its own but a bit thirsty when towing a Campertrailer
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Follow Up By: old mate - Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:00

Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:00
I drive a 03 Pathfinder and don't tow a trailer but I get 10.5l/100km. I find it extremely comfortable on long trips and it is very capable off road. Service and insurance costs are cheap. Try the Pathfinders Forum (down at the moment) at for any Pathy info.
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Follow Up By: Member - t0me (WA) - Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 20:16

Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 20:16
Is that Pathy on diesel? 10.5 is bloody good. They quote the challenger as being able to get 11/100 and better on highway's but the reality is short of that for sure. What size engine you got in that pathfinder?
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Follow Up By: old mate - Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 17:57

Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 17:57
nope, not diesel, it's a V6 petrol.
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Follow Up By: old mate - Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 17:58

Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 17:58
3.3L V6 Petrol.
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Reply By: RAGS AND DAGS - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 16:30

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 16:30
Is there any reason why you have ruled out the superior Toyota option ?

Just remember that you may pay more for one but you will also resell it for more and far quicker. Try and sell a Challenger these days , terrible resale and the Pathie is not much better.

Total cost of ownership in a Toyota is less and you get a superior vehicle to boot.

Have fun.
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Follow Up By: 1812 - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 21:43

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 21:43
G'day We looked at the options; Hilux duel cab - Dont like or want ute.
; Forerun/ foor/fourrunner - cant spell it and the missus dosent like the look of it.
; Prado - a step up from our budget.
; Landcruser TO BIG

Now for a serious answer. Most of the above is true and the resale value should come a bit closer as we intend to keep it for 7-10 Years. But I will look at the prado again for comparison thanks for your sugestion
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 20:50

Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 20:50

Bigger advertising budget perhaps, that cons people.

Prado has the oldest tech turbo diesel of all makes.

They sell cars that offer less for the dollar than most others.

Ever wonder who pays for all that advertising???? Surprise, surprise, surprise, it's the consumers who buy the product.
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Reply By: pop - Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 22:54

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2006 at 22:54
Hi,last year we were in the same boat looking at the vehicles to tow a windsor rapid too, could of gone the challenger and liked the pathy but ended up with a holden frontera se.Its a about the same size as the challenger and has a 3.2l engine.
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 11:51

Thursday, Jan 26, 2006 at 11:51
You should also consider a Jackaroo from 98 on. There are quite a few with very low mileage around.

Big Cabin space. Low service costs. Low aquisition price nowadays, resale value after 5 - 10 years probably zilch, just like the navara and challenger will be.

If you buy a Toyota, you will pay more up front, more every service, and have a better resale, but the total cost won't be less.
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Reply By: Member - t0me (WA) - Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 19:49

Friday, Jan 27, 2006 at 19:49
Yup, they've all been mentioned now.
I think this is the list of Mid-size family 4x4's


The Prado is the cream of the crop as far as wheel travel, resale, fuel tank range (not 100% on that one), any of the others are fair vehicles for your purposes I reackon. Quoted fuel economy figures from the manufacturer puts the Challenger at the top, though I've never seen 10.5l/100 from mine, more like 12.5/100 and I can't believe the bullbar would increase its consumption that much so I'd better get mine serviced ;-).

The Challenger has the 3Lv6, Jack is a 3.2, Pathy is 3.5.
Pathy and Chall (I think) both have the lift up rear door, Jack has barn style (pretty sure thats right). If you're ever going to consider putting it on LPG to save even more, the Challenger is said to be a compatible engine but you would need another $1k for a rear wheel hanger whereas the other 2 come as standard.

Post 2000 with ABS the Challenger is hard to fit another battery under the bonnet, on mine it was easy. 2000 and pre 2000 have leaf springs at the back and torsion at the front (= a little cheap lift with extra spring and winding up the torsion) it also has 15" wheels, the tyres for 15's are cheaper than 15's (worth noting). Not sure what size the others are. Aftermarket bits for the Challenger are few and far between. The LS version comes with LSD and cruise control, both very nice so look out for one of those if going for a Challenger. I believe post 2000 it has a different chassis, but dunno what difference that makes, post 2000 it does have coil suspension and I believe that is better for everyday driving than the leaf, but leaf is better for towing (again, just what I've read on the forum's).

Any closer to deciding? ;-)
Go out and drive all of them!

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Follow Up By: 1812 - Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:53

Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:53
We tried to drive a Challenger & Pathfinder on Thursday!!!!!! The car yard was open but would not let tast drive unless we would sign on day. He sugested we make an appointment to which I said *^%$&#$ and have a nice Australia day and why did you open.
We will try again next weekat another yard

Thanks to everyone your imput is very helpfull
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Reply By: Member - t0me (WA) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 00:19

Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 00:19
An appointment?!?!?!? Where was this?
How annoying!
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Follow Up By: 1812 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 17:54

Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 17:54
Mc Grath holden Kirrawee NSW
Big dealership small on customer service
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