Trvelling with the best mate..?

Redback, in Vic dogs are only allowed in national parks under very strict conditions. They can be in cars travelling through parks if public roads pass through the park. They must remain in the vehicle during transit.

They are not allowed in the park during planned trips within the park even if kept in a vehicle. Many people are totally ignorant of the rules for dogs in national parks and have their own interpretations. Check with Parks Vic and this will be confirmed.
For example travelling through the Alpine NP they can be in a vehicle; in Mt Buffalo NP [no through route] they are definately banned.

It is not only an issue of chasing wildlife, which in most cases is not a huge problem, but a whole range of things which have been declared inappropriate to domestic animlas in a NP.

Bush lawyers take heed !

Ken

One of those "handy pails" from Bunnings (or free if you can source them from a bakers etc) are perfect for carry doggy doo in the vehicle - they have a close fitting lid that doesn't let any smell escape. Wife bought one of those fold out toilet seats that takes a plastic bag - works for that too :-/ Doesn't matter if you're in the middle of a state forest - bag it up, take it home. The "leave it where it lies" attitude is what gets most beaches shut down for dogs - try finding a beach in Melbourne you can take your dog to after 9am in summer apart from the mud flats at Brighton.

We regularly take our dog camping to state forests, but am forever mindful of the impact she has on other campers - we tend to choose the more remote smaller spots away from the caravanning crowds, she doesn't wander, always kept within site, put on a leash if there's other people around, she is kept in the zippered vestibule of the tent overnight etc. Helps when your dog is like your shadow and you can't do anything without her following "mummy and daddy" to see what we're up to! If she was too independent we would leave her with friends.

My biggest gripe is other campers who don't control their dogs, and don't care about the impact their roaming dog might have on other campers - these are the dogs that come bounding into your camp looking for a fight with your own dog, going through your rubbish/food, bleep on the tent, chasing kangaroos, chasing your vehicle while you're driving etc, or people with a pack of three or more running loose unsupervised - it's situations like those that see dog access being shut down.

Hi All,
Dunno about the east side but over in the west many national parks and CALM reserves are routinely baited with 1080 baits for wild dog/cat and fox control.The baits are designed to be attractive to the target species.

Farmers and station owners also use these baits for the same reasons.

Warning !!!!! Your "best mate" is unlikely to survive such a bait(no real Antidote available).

Signs are erected at main entry points but may not be on all access tracks.

If you MUST take your dog into Nat Parks etc (it is illegal in WA) make sure he is suitably restrained (ie on a lead and preferably muzzled) and expect to be asked to leave if found.

Disco

some UFI (useless @#$%en Informatio)

1080 is a poison that is endemic to WA, derived from the gastrolobium family (commonly refered to as poison pea plants). It is not used in the eastern states (not that I was aware anyway) because the native fauna over there do not have a built up resistence to the poison, hence a mass extermination of fauna and flora.

This is aslo a good reason that dog owners in WA shouldnt let there animals chace native birds and marsupials, apart from the usual reasons, the wa fauna has a built up immunity to 1080 and are more than happy to feast on it (natural type). Hence if you trusty friend (or neighbours cat :)) chomps on an animal such as a bronze wing pigeon or small marsupial, they will end up with a fairly leathel dose of 1080.

My boy knows that when we go bush, he always wears a muzzle. Still lets him drink but no eating.

Guys,

1080 is definitely used (or used to be) in NSW.

Hi Ro Dah O

Thanks for all the extra information re 1080
Here is a bit more UFI that you may not know.
1080 is not derived from gastrolobium and oxylobium species, it is found in them, the poison was originally synthesised in the US way back in the 1940's as a byproduct of other research. The 1080 used in WA is manufactured overseas and is chemically known as sodium mono fluoroacetate and it has no effect on flora (plants)
West Australian species do not have immunity or resistance, they have an increased tolerance which is not the same thing. I wont try to explain the difference as it is of no consequence in this thread.

Regardless of what ever it is, or how it works if your best mate eats it he will be lucky to survive

that does it, I will never read another book LOLOL

thanks for that, burning land management books as we speak

mike

We take our Silky Terrier prospecting with us all the time. Out of curiousity I asked our vet if there's any remedy or antidote for 1080 poison. The answer was a definitive "No". If the dog takes the bait, try and make it vomit by whatever means you can. If the dog doesn't bring it back up, then it's got about 20 minutes before the poison is too far into its system for the animal to survive.

If you can't get it to a vet within 20 minutes and it won't vomit - shoot it. It's better for the dog and you. You won't wanna watch die it I can assure you.

I shot my mates Blue Heeler south of Laverton, W.A a few years ago. It was horrible watching it go beserk and bite itself and anybody that went near it. Whining, howling and rolling around. He couldn't do it, so I shot it for him. It broke my heart too.

I keep my little mate tied up on a "run" or on a lead when prospecting. I watch him all the the time and fortunately he's a well fed, very fussy eater.

Bilbo

Bilbo,

And to think some are disgusted when a discussion gets around to cleanly terminating feral animals with firearms but don't even blink at the thought of the same animals suffering a cruel, painful, slow death from 1080 baits that our NPWS etc love to use.