L/C 4.2T front end suspension
Submitted: Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 23:23
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I have a L/C 4.2 T 100 with a winch and BBar, plus extra battery. I have ARB 133 shockers and ARB torsion bars .(ARB's recommended solution for the weight)
It rides rough on cattle grids, outback corrugations,( a real teeth rattler) concrete dish drains etc. It appears to be under shocked, when leaving a dish drain the front axle appears to fall away.
Have just replaced the 133's- small improvement. Have today put the original Toyota shocks back on(with the ARB torsion bars) and it is much, much better.
Anyone know whats going on?
My suspicion is that the ARB shockers are not suitable with the ARB torsion bars- but I dont understand that they could be so poor as be inferior to the original shockers
By the way ARB has been no real help so far
Reply By: fnqcairns - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:48
Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:48
Fizza, shocks are everything when it comes to ride quality, it's hard to find a less harsh shock that will still feel good at 100km/h and loaded. Genuine shocks are designed to appeal to the suburban set etc so they will feel really nice offroad at <40km/h and loafing around town.
The shocks you bought are designed to still work
well at speed while loaded and on less than perfect roads, so effectively where it matters, and that is the trade off unfortunately, there is every chance the stock toyo shocks could be mentally draining on a long loaded drive and that can become dangerous.
Anyway the only shocks I know of out there that can do both fairly
well are the Konis they are soft in compression (which it seems you like) the rebound is adjustable so they can be ramped up to give better wheel control at speed.
I dont sell them, there and probably a few other brands out there actually do a good job at allrounding as
well.
Me personally I like the added 'feel' of some of the aftermarket 'common' crop of shocky, but there are times I wish I could switch in real time to a softer set like the Konis.
cheers fnq
PS on fast
suspension movements modern shocks are designed to decrease dampening so the wheel has a greater chance of staying in contact with the road which is always a good idea, if they didn't you would think you were driving a rodeo pony, so your shocks when the axel fell away was doing its job, shockers are dampeners only.
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Reply By: desert - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 20:21
Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 20:21
What you require is a damper with strong rebound valving, which will control the "drop away" feeling, typically OE shocks are valved this way as they give a softer ride on compression. You are asking a lot from a
suspension system that has copped a lot of critism for just such complaints(Toyota are not listening though). I'd suggest a pair of big
bore Tough-Dogs or Ralphs, which are both adjustable for you yourself to experiment with. They have very large oil capacity which is good for IFS which tend to oscillate more than Beam axles. I seriously doubt that smaller capacity shockers, ie Bilstein,Koni, will be able to control that mass on IFS and still have the reserve oil capacity to fight fade. The have excellent valving characteristics and are rebuldable, but in the end it's oil capacity that is going to be lacking for your situation.
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