Radio aerial floggle toggle

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:12
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For the wont of a better word...... for the life of me I cannot think what the name is.

Years ago I had one for the CB aerial.

Basically what it is is a device that makes the aerial lean back(or forward) without havinbg to unscrew the aerial when going into or under carports, garages, trees.

Anyone seen one around?

Wouldn't mind one for my HF aerial.

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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:20

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:20
Willem, I know the device you mean. But I have never seen one for a HF aerial which tend to be a lot heavier. Be aware that it would also change the polorization of the signal. Now this can be a good thing, especially if you're within about 300K of the other bloke, and your aerial is more horizontal than vertical. Like most other things it can also be a not so good thing, unless you intend to whack a few tree branches. Why not just stick with scratching the paint ? :)))))))
Good luck finding one.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:34

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:34
G'day Footy

Hmmmm yesss. I wack a fair amount of tree branches as it is. Just thought it would be good to be able to lay it down before going into garage instead of taking it off all the timw. But then again. I have no use for it in town.

Had not thought of the polarity thingy, whatever that means......lol
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:44

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:44
Willem, I won't drivel the tech stuff, but it's a handy thing to know on HF. I know what you mean about tree branches. After the dry up on the Cape, I had to do a lot of going around the trees because of fires etc. Whack! whack! The whips aren't cheap. So I buy an autotune aerial. But again whack whack. The law says put it on the back, so I do. Now its whack whack hello is there anyone out there ? Stop. Check that the top bits still there....
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Reply By: 100TD - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:40

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:40
are u talking about a dipole?this has a spring base that allows flex in the antenna or are u thinking of (cant remember its name but i have one)that u can put it between the antenna and the base and it acts like a hinge allowing the antenna to be folded down?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:41

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:41
Yeah...the hinge type...that is what I was trying to convey...LOL
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Reply By: Member - Geoff M (Newcastle) - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:43

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:43
Piece of string?
Tie the top end of the bugger down a bit?
Same problems as Jim pointed out.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:42

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:42
Puts too much strain on spring! Not the answer. :o)
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:47

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 21:47
I was looking for one just last week. Tried Dick Smith but they did not know what I was talking about ! I am still looking and will ask some radio hams where they get them from and will let you know if I can find them.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:43

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:43
Thanks
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Reply By: JW - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:40

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:40
"Andy Griffiths" used to have one on that huge, mine's bigger than your's, whip antenna on the rear guard of his police car.
You may not be of my vintage, Willem,(> 50) so you may not be familiar with that TV show.
Have you tried any army disposal stores. They used to be standard kit for Land Rovers fitted with radios. They used to clip onto the fibreglass antennas and were designed for quick attachment and release.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:46

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 22:46
Was that show Cop Shop or Homicide??

>50? Does that mean Plus 50 or MInus 50?

Thanks will go look at Army Disposal next time I am in the Big Smoke.
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Follow Up By: JW - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 17:28

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 17:28
Neither. It was a 60's show about a small town USA sherriff starring Andy Griffiths. >50 means older than 50.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 23:39

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 at 23:39
G'day Willem,

I seem to recall them being referred to as "Knock Down" bases.

I had a bit of a look at places like Prestige Communications but couldn't find one.

I am not sure you could get one that would cope with the size of your HF gear though.

Anyway I hope this helps.
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 00:08

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 00:08
Hi Willem

I have the same problem.

uses to only put HF in on long trips
Now we have a house in Bruce Rock WA we may go on drive into remote areas with no HF

Soooo. I have just ordered a 910mm long multi tap aerial from outbacker that is the same height as the roof rack, 4 VKS 1 radtel, should work (i hope).

Will use auto turn on long trips

hope to get it on Friday, will try out on weekend and let you know

Regards

Richard
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 17:29

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 17:29
Willem, If you mount it horizontal, say on the front face of your bullbar, then you wonthave an ounce of trouble getting under the carport, into the garage or in any underground carpark. And it'd double as a clothes line.
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Reply By: Member JD- Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 19:55

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 19:55
Hi Willem,
I know what you are after,They have them for boats,you can either have them mounted in the vertical plane or room permiting all the way back to 9.0clock..12 being vertical or all the way forward to 3 Oclock ,I don't think it would be robust enought for 4WD..but if your handy enought to make up your own using a spring for tension with a bolt thru the middle so it could be moved quickly to the position you want..maybe a spring loaded locking pin aswell it would'nt be to hard really..similer to swing up jocky wheel..but to the rite proportions for an antenae.Hope this helps.
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Reply By: techo2oz - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:28

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:28
G'day Willem,
the problem I see would be that the only units I have ever seen (as you describe) were used for the lighter duty CB whips. I would think if subjected to the extra strain of a HF antenna, especially in the offroad environment, they would have a short life.

What I have seen however is a rather ingeneous device. It was mounted on the bullbar of a 75 series cruiser and had a fully auto codan antenna mounted on top. Essentially it was a heavy L shaped bracket mounted on the bar. On the inner edge was a hole (parallel to the Bull bar) on the outer edge (closest to the bonnet) was some round tube (about 15-20mm ID) again parallel to the BB.

Onto this, essentially was a lump of flat square (around 100 X 100mm). One end on the bottom had 2 bits of flat pointing downwards which lined up with the ends of the tube. A hole drilled into each of these and a bolt (High Tensile) passed through it and the tube. This then forms a pivot point.

At the front then of the lump of steel was another single lug which lined up with the front hole. So when travelling, the whole thing can be locked in the upright position. But when going under low things, remove a spring clip and pin, lay the antenna back against the roof/roof rack, and hey presto all the clearance you need.

I intend making one just as soon as I can find a spot to mount the transciever in an 80 cruiser.

Cheers
Peter
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Feb 03, 2006 at 00:23

Friday, Feb 03, 2006 at 00:23
Hey Willem
Just had a thought about your aerial flogge toggle. LOL.

What about using a RAM Mount and mounting it on the bull bar and attach the Multi Tap to the other end.
Have a look here for some of the range that may help.
All different sizes available and some will hold a bloody lot of weight.
http://www.ram-mount.com.au

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