Ferodo 4WD brake pads

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:25
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Hi all, looking for opinions on the Ferodo "4WD" pads , due for pad replacement soon and as you have them for a while one needs to be happy with them.
Tired of crap pads that deposit layers of black crud onto the mags.
Quite often the original pads are great but prices are over the top.

Your opinion would helpful.

Cheers Dave L.

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Reply By: HJ60-2H - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 10:20

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 10:20
Crud on the wheel meand you have softer pads. They will grip better thus stop better and wear your rotors out slower.

Little or no crud means you have harder pads. They will stop you slower and wear your rotors out faster.

Soft pad give you better brakes and less maintenance (only change pads not pads and rotors). Crud on the wheel cna be wahed off with soapy water.

If you want no crud then buy the cheapest pads you can find. They are usually hard ones.

I run softer Lucas pads. Work well and my kids get to wash the wheels every month or so for their pocket money.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 13:57

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 13:57
Sorry, HJ but wrong.
Black cruddy pads (common these days) does NOT necessarily mean less wear etc on rotors. Since they removed asbestos from all pads there have been lots of very ordinary compounds. Manufacturers look for 1.Price and 2."pleasant" feel. Everything else (especially rotor wear) comes way down the list- the sooner they can sell you new rotors the more profit for them.

The original (factory) pads on my wifes car were horribly dirty- a couple of laps of the block and there'd be black crud on previously clean wheels.
Meanwhile, disc rotor wear was terrible.
Swapped to Bendix "Advance" pads- rotor wear has virtually stopped, almost no black dust dirtying the mags (maybe 1/20th as much as before) and beaut brakes- only downside is a bit noisy and unpleasant when cold- well worth it, considering all the other benefits.
I hate Black soot from brake pads!
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 11:28

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 11:28
Jackaroo pads last well over 100,000 even in autos which do most of their miles around town. There is no black crud, and the rotors do not wear. Brake feel is excellent whether hot or cold or wet just out of a river crossing.

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Follow Up By: cutnhors - Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 10:13

Sunday, Feb 05, 2006 at 10:13
Hi
I might be able to shed some light here as I was at one time the National sales manager at Bendix during the Asbestos phase out. The truth, ok the "Advance" compound is basically the same as the "4WD" compund from Bendix. They knew it was an excellent material so decided to use it as the replacement for the Blue Box Asbestos pads.

Forget the days of clean rims all NAO non asbesto pads give dust, thats the price for not using asbestos. There a harder compound and take more time to bed in but certainly work well on 4WD

Cheers
CH
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Reply By: Rigor - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 10:31

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 10:31
Thanks HJ60 , have you had any experience with the Ferodo 4WD pads?
Apparently stop well with little or no dust, thats just one opinion.

Dave L.
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Follow Up By: HJ60-2H - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:48

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:48
Yes I have used the Ferodo ones in a Commodore, but not the 4WD ones. They were OK, nothing special in my opinion. No doubt some one will tell me I am wrong.
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Reply By: S&N - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:07

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:07
i had "race brakes" pads in my wrx, they were the 4x4 pads and they were awesome!!! stuff all dust!
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Follow Up By: HJ60-2H - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:46

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:46
Ditto in my Subaru and I get lots of dust
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Follow Up By: S&N - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:51

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:51
what disks were you running? I was using DBA gold, slotted and cross drilled! thats why I used the 4x4 pads as they were a little softer than there performance pads and wouldnt wear too bad on the disk
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Follow Up By: HJ60-2H - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:57

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 18:57
Standard disks and the pads are Bendics (sic). Not sure you can get anything other than 4x4 pads for a Subaru?? When was the last 4x2 Subaru imported into Australia, be a few years now I reckon.
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Follow Up By: S&N - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:13

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 21:13
ha ha funny! they were 4x4 pads....as in crusier/patrol. not 4x4 pads like all wheel drive!!!
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Reply By: Eddy - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:34

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2006 at 23:34
Either buy genuine or bendix as most quality ones are anyway.
Don't experiment with your brakes cos it is too hard to wash the dust off.
Dust means the pads are working.
No dust means your rotors are working.
Supercrap sell ferodo, they also sell mag cleaner.
I use bendix & detergent.

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Follow Up By: Rigor - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:18

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 09:18
Well Eddy It must horses for courses , my original post (top) was for a mates information, I drive a jackaroo TD and at 92,000 I still have the original pads (approx half worn) no dust and bugger all disk wear.
I would replace them in aflash with OEM pads but I believe they cost several hundred bucks a set . Probably the argument of buying quality stands.

Dave L.

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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 11:35

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 11:35
Agreed for the Jackaroo. No dust, no pad wear to speak of, no rotor wear to speak of.

My auto has 115,000k, pads just over half worn, rotors have worn less than a quarter of a millimeter.

Before the Jackaroo I always used Bendix pads on whatever vehicle I needed pads for. Bendix pads always clean and long wearing with minimal rotor wear and excellent braking.
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Reply By: TD6 - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:23

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 15:23
Rigor,

I have the Ferodo "4WD" pads on my GU Patrol and they would have to be the dirtiest pads I've eaver run. Constantly have dirty wheel particularly on the front

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Follow Up By: Rigor - Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:32

Thursday, Feb 02, 2006 at 16:32
Thanks TD6 , I will rule them out.

Dave L.
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:04

Saturday, Feb 04, 2006 at 16:04
Hi Rigor
As an owner of a mechanical workshop, brakes are a problem.
We used to use Bendix standard all the time and Bendix 4wd in obviously 4wd's.
Since September 2003 when all asbestos had to be out of automotive products, well lets just say bendix lost the plot. I got sick of having to do warranty claims on cars and 4bys with bendix brakes.
I tried a few brands and settled on 2. The first being Ferodo XL. Excellent pad with excellent brake feel and reasonable life. I did have a few complaints because of the colour the wheels get, black.
I have since been using Prime. In over 18 months of using prime I have had only one claim because of noisey brakes in a commodore. Now if a set of brakes are going to squeel it will be in a commodore. Even genuine holden pads can give a few noises. Prime are very competitively priced, good feel, low noise and very clean.
I still use Bendix 4wd and will only use Bendix AD as a last resort if nothing else is available. For instance DB1491 for current Subaru Outback are either genuine at $260.00 or Bendix AD for about $85.00. No other brands available.
Be carefull with Ferodo as you can get the Ferodo Zero from Super cheap but they are hard as hell and chitty pads. Very noisey.
It is pretty important to machine rotors now since the abolition of asbestos as asbestos was a great quieting agent. When a rotor wears it wears uneven, just like a flywheel and clutch set up so when you put new flat pads up against worn rotors, well you get not only noises but inefficient brakes.
We have been machining every rotor since the asbestos has been gone and very rarely get any problems with brakes. Considering the amount we do, I am very happy with the results. I think you have to spend a little to get the best.
Bedding in is important as well. Once you have the new pads in you need to accellerate to 60 and use medium to heavy braking down to 5 kmh 8 to 9 times. This is to get the bonding materials in the compounds to melt in together to maximise the braking. The disc rotor needs to turn a slight tinge of blue/grey. That way you should get no noises and perfect brakes and great life. Once you bed them in it is a good idea to drive for about 20 minutes to let them cool down gently with minimum braking.
Try the RDA brakes webste
or DBA website
Both have good information on it.
As for your question I had Ferodo 4wd pads fitted to my 80 series and I have since sold it. They have done about 40 000 km with no problems at all. I can't complain about the colour of the wheels either.
Hope this ramble helps
120scruiser
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Follow Up By: Rigor - Wednesday, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:09

Wednesday, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:09
Thanks 120 & Gerhard nice to get constructive advice , sounds like I will give the Bendix a go when the time comes. I know it is a matter of price but I find it amazing the range of quality whenit comes to things like pads.

Cheers Dave L
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser - Wednesday, Feb 08, 2006 at 16:25

Wednesday, Feb 08, 2006 at 16:25
No Probs.
I recommend all my customers with GU patrols to throw the Nissan
pads away and fit Bendix 4WD. They give a better pedal feel due to being softer.
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