Evakool and Dry Ice
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 08:48
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Jack
After spending a fortune on ice and still drinking warm beer from my Esky, I am looking at buying an Evakool (???) cooler (already got a good reliable fridge), and thought the use of dry ice ( where available) would be worth considering. Has anyone had any experiences on using dry ice -v- normal ice in one of these coolers in terms of comparisons between how long each lasts. On a recent trip to
Corner Country a travelling companion was getting 5 days out of *block* ice in his Evakool before having to get more. And his beer was cold ........
Many thanks,
Jack
Reply By: Tuco69 - Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:35
Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:35
Jack, forget it! I've tried the dry ice routine and at around minus 150F it is simply much too cold (and expensive) and it will freeze the beer. Even wrapping it in paper so that direct contact is eliminated will result in similar results to your fridge.
The best drinking temperature for beer is achieved when it has been packed in the esky first, and then a liberal amount of party ice has been spread over it, then another layer of cans and ice etc - then left a few hours to pull down. Unlike block ice (which lasts longer) party ice or crushed ice will fill all the gaps between the bottles or cans and more efficient cooling is assured.
Obviously on long trips then this is out of the question - unless you have access to purchasing more party ice.
Not sure what type of fridge you have, but with our Evakool ED70 - cold drinks are never a problem. Most drinks are carried hot and only added to the fridge to replace a cold one that has been removed.
Bit like a water donkey in reverse - where cold water must be added in order to get hot out the other side.
Tuco
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Follow Up By: Coops - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 22:33
Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003 at 22:33
put your beers in cold initially and this will help preserve your ice. Dry Ice is a no go as your stubbies will burst when they freeze. Tried it even with a separating layer of thick cardboard and it was a dismal failure
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Reply By: paul - Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:12
Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:12
Its all about money. Going back a few years if you cannot afford to go the route of 12v fridges then this is the only solution from my experience to cold beer for a stay of a few days in 40 degree weather.
Step one - cool evakool walls with ice or ice bricks night before, next day dicsard ice etc and put in block of dry ice.
Step two. - break down bags of ice into smaller bags and pack up evakool.
Three - when needed, transfer bags of ice from evakool (if you can get the lid open - note evakool with dry ice on very hot day has an efficiency measureable by the vacuum created inside this wonderful esky, that is, very hard to open it) to beer esky.
main problem - hot beer to ice means ice to water means rapid use of lots of ice.
Nonetheless, it works to a fair extent for a few days.
So my suggestion is for the price of an 80L evakool you can probably by a 30L CCF waeco that will make your beers very cold in a few hours, and because it does not need ice you can fit just as much beer in as a 50L esky with ice. If can't afford dual battery systems and generators etc just run your vehicle for a couple hours a few times a day and drink the beer from the bottom near the cooling plates. Not efficient but it works. Course you don't want to run your fridge at night but if you are not keeping milk and meat etc then it don't matter.
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Reply By: Darian - Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:21
Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:21
I reckon block ice is the go Jack - make my own in the freezer at
home for fishing trips etc.
Party ice is fast but useless for multi day trips - really big blocks last really
well in a good cooler and while the drinks won't be super chilly, the ones next to the ice are always cold enough.
The problems come up when you can't buy new blocks. If you can find the actual ice works in a town as you drift through, they usually have blocks......dp
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Reply By: Joe - Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:32
Wednesday, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:32
Most ice works will also provide a mixture of water and dry ice and this seems to work
well.
Best tip for making it last though is to make sure that you insulate the bottom of the esky by keeping it on something. I have used a piece of plywood (doubled as a work top or if required as a jacking plate) and this worked
well for me.
I have not bothered with this since I bought a fridge though, and the advice you received about getting the CCF35 Waeco seems to be good.
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