Thoughts on new model hilux
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:07
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Would like to know what other owners of the new hilux think of them. I've had 1 for 9 months and done 26000k's, overall really happy with it for an IFS setup.
Lifted the front and rear by 60mm (bilsteins), ARB bull bar, sidebars, winch, XGT lights, 265/75r16 BFG's.
The ride compared to the old models on and off road is far superior. Power for a diesel hilux is also great. Can get 9 ltr's a hundred if just cruise around and around 11 for allot of offroad work.
Overall a good 4wd. If only they made one with a solid diff and coils.
Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:16
Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:16
Agree with your comments Hound. Have done 20,000 in
mine, but will add up a few more on 16 week trek this winter.
Not a 'real' offroader. But does
well all the same, and more comfortable than most for touring.
I've bashed my bash plate around so much with off roading, I've stripped it back, primed and repainted it. With all the painit rubbed off it was starting to rust after the last trip to Fraser Island. Looks like new, except for the dents of course.
267/75/16s. Those a big tyres. Close to 32 inches?? I was looking to upgrade to 31s next time.
What sort of winch have you fitted?
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Follow Up By: hound - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:33
Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:33
Warn 9000 lb low mount. Will change to plasma rope before winter to keep the weight down in the front, and a wire has given me the sh.ts cut my hands too many times.
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:52
Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 20:52
Winching Nissans out I presume. HAHA.
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Reply By: sheps - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:22
Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:22
G'day hound,
I agree with you completely. My new diesel hilux is my first experience with owning a 4WD. Have done a basic 4WD course and learnt heaps. Next course is a notch or 2 up in the high country with Jim Kennedy at SafeTrek; very professionally run outfit.
Also, have fitted ARB bars back & front, Warn winch plus airlocker on the rear diff, although still agonising over the
suspension. Have been told anything over 30mm or so lift on the front upsets the front-end geometry and may play havoc with the CVJ's etc. I like the idea of big rubber but VicRoads tells me anything over 15mm will get me booked if pulled over, plus possible insurance complications.
What have you done with the rear leaves? I am considering polyairs although believe they are not designed to lift beyond a load-created sag; only retempered or extra leaves will do that properly....maybe I need both.
Any opinion on Koni shocks; I am told they are the benchmark.
Anyhow, I do love my new lux and consistantly got 7.9 ltrs/100 driving around town. Even with all the new gear and a fair load in the back, still get 8.2 litres/100. I should add, my adult children reckon I run-in my cars forever....last time I was booked for speeding was in 1966.
Cheers,
Sheps
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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:31
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:31
Sheps, I put the Firestone airbags in
mine. Paid the money and got them throught The Airbag Man. You can get them much cheaper from Trucksprings in USA, but I wanted to be sure to get the right ones. They have kits for standard and 2 inch lift.
They have made a huge diference when fully loaded and towing.
I have the OME suspensioin and lift. Happy so far.
Thought about diff locks a while back, but for the moment, I figure this is not a vehicle for the real heavy off roading. Diff locks might tempt me to take it to
places it should not go.
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Follow Up By: hound - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:53
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:53
Sheps, I have had the rear springs reset to the new height with an extra spring but will change them sone to after market ones.
Bilsteins are the way to go for this type of setup; they have an adjustable
seat position, are rebuild able and have progressive valving.
Tyre wise it all depends on what you want to do smaller tyres are ok for the odd trip but if you go off-road alot you need to get the clearance. I don’t really worry about the 15mm rule, if you checked all cars and 4wd’s you would find a huge percentage would technically be illegal and not road worthy in some way. As long as you get a tyre
shop to put the tyres on a get a receipt you should be right.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 03:21
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 03:21
. Appwardo and Hound,
I must attempt to leap to the defence of GMH.
. We're on our third Rodeo diesel. 2.4, 1984 2wl. drive (strictly honest worker), 2.8, 1994 4wd dual cab (bloody near bullet-proof for a
young family),and now a 3l 2002 with 116000 km.
. Very nice ride etc etc, but fuel consumption has dropped from 8.7 L/100 in the 2.8 L to around 10L/100 in the 3L.
. People say more power = higher fuel consumption, which, to my mind, is false logic. Hopefully someone with the "new" 3L Rodeo can come up with good reasons to buy one.
. I shan't be buying another "little" big car any time soon,, but if I did, it would be a Navara.
Sorry GMH. Rodeos gave us 690,000 km of trouble-free travel, but now,IF you do stuff up, a wizzkid is needed for the heart-start.
. And I suspect all our new generation 4wd's are tarred with similar brushes.
Collyn R. & my mate BJ may be right with their OKA's
Hey, aint it nice to drive/not fight, the Mighty Midgets?
. In (some) despair
. Jeff H.
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:50
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:50
Following inspection plus a trial run in the new Hilux (and after talking to fellow
Kimberley users) my wife paid almost the new price for an ultra-low mileage 3.0 TD that was about the last of the previous model (she is selling her 1996 2.8 litre).
I think her choice was a very good buy.
I suspect that, with this new model, Toyota is seeking a somewhat different market. This does not mean it is not a good 4WD - but it certainly is a much softer one. A
suspension lift is essential if used up here.
Collyn Rivers
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Follow Up By: hound - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:17
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:17
The old 3lt turbo is a good car, but I can say from experience that the new model is far superior in almost ever way, have a look at the new chassis compared to the older models its almost twice a thick in spots, has more power, better
suspension, better ride etc.
When I first got
mine others I go 4wding with who have the older models didn’t think it would be any good, until they took it for a drive. All 4 of them have sold there old lux’s and have new ones.
Sure there are things I would like different on this model, but if you go for a drive in one that is setup for off-road most people would change there minds about them for a new generation 4wd.
Still love my old 2.8 but it just keep costing me too much cash to keep going.
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Follow Up By: Brett_B - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:04
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:04
I have had the old and now have the new TD Lux, I've done 10,000 Klm.
The new lux is far better than the old there is no doubt about that.
With the old lux on my first outing into the bush I bent the bash plate, so I lifted it, with the new Lux, on its first outing I bent the bash plate on it also hence its getting a lift done also.
Some crap has been said about these new lux'es, the same thing happened when the first IFS Lux came out and look where that went and how long that lasted.
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:55
Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 13:55
Were we to live anywhere else except where do (north of
Broome) I'd certainly go along with what you say - but less sure about it up here where almost all of our driving is off the bitumen.
The 75-series Troopy too is preferred here to the 78-series (although I personally prefer the 78).
Collyn
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Follow Up By: tex1972 - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 21:40
Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 21:40
had a drive of one the other day they do go alright but with single rail injection you had better hope it drops its bundle under warranty they are VERY dear to repair.
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