Was anyone watching the show getaway

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:53
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and saw the fellow bogged on Fraser island.
Ben dark came to the rescue and attached the snatch strap to the bull bar of the troopy on one side just on the bar and not on the recovery point. and the bumper bar of his 4x4.
Or was I seeing things. Or as my wife said your just getting picky .

All the best
Eric
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Reply By: Member - Darren T (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:59

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 21:59
Yeah, I saw it. Lucky he didn`t pull the vehicle on its side.
But it was still better than the rolled vehicle. Happens way to often on Frasier, so many inexperienced 4Wdrivers, and so many in one place. Could make a fortune pulling ppl out of the bog :)
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Reply By: scottp - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:02

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:02
I think he tied it to the tow bar and then the troopy bull bar.

Made me cringe!!!!!
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Reply By: cruiser - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:19

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:19
It was a repeat, but non the less, ill informed and not very responsible.

Doesnt help does it.
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:43

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 22:43
Eric even my wife commented on how dangerous it was (and stupid of CH9 for not editing it out).
A good lawyer will probably find a way for someone elses stupidity to be blamed on CH9 out of this.

Cheers Trevor.
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Reply By: Member - AdrianLR (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 23:08

Thursday, Feb 09, 2006 at 23:08
There was a similar response on EO the first time it was shown. Ben probably thought that Russell Coight's adventures and recovery techniques were documentaries!

Adrian
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:11

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:11
Are telling me there not?????
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:25

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:25
Funny you should mention Russell Coight Peter did 2 days filming with him on the creb track when they did the series.
Pete recons he is a very nice fellow and very funny in real life not a big head.
WE had some overseas people with us a few years back on a trip they must have caught a few shows whilst here.
While on the trip they said to me they were quite worried before coming on the the trip for there safety because of the show.

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Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:30

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:30
LOL

Now that is funny.

Did you blow up any kangaroos for them?

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Follow Up By: Member - Luxoluk - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:28

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:28
John....is the property you were going to buy over in the west??
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:24

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 16:24
Nah mate, thats the one I did buy!!!!

Didn't you read the caption, "Troopy At Home" LOL.
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Reply By: Shawsie (Member - Qld) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:26

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:26
WHAT-THE! It was the first thing I noticed - tied it round the rear towbar and then onto the bullbar!!!!!!!!!! The first thing I said about the rolled 4by was "why were they going so fast!" Maybe I'm an old fart (NOT!), but c'mon, have some common sense eh!
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Reply By: brd - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:54

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:54
I agree. It was pretty irresponsible & a bad example to 4wders, who are not aware of the potential hazzards. Channel 9, however, have enough off road educational resources to know better. To me, it looked a bit staged, and was a gentle tug, but it was all wrong, and does nothing but give more ammunition to the anti-4x4 brigade.

As a supplier to the mining industry, I re-did my annual induction at a Rio Tinto site two weeks ago. Rio have one of the best safety policies in the industry. Snatch straps are TOTALLY BANNED from all of their minesites. That is, they are contraband...in the same catagory as firearms and alcohol! If discovered in your vehicle, you would be immediately removed from site, and an incident report raised. If you're an employee, your employer would receive a stern letter. For a direct supplier like me, it may even cost me the ongoing business.

Since last years induction, Rio have now also banned the use of 4x4 winches on minesites. You might think Rio are a bit over the top, but safety is paramount. There are correct procedures to follow with vehicle recovery, and some areas are hard to control (so hard to document safe procedures), eg how much power is too much in a recovery.

I could have been killed at another minesite about 15 years ago, when safety issues were claimed to be the highest priority, but the systems were not there to ensure it was carried through. I was measuring fast idle exhaust emissions from a coal hauler, when it jumped into gear and lurched forward. The only way I could prevent myself going head first off the back of the hauler into the goose neck was to lean against the exhaust. Got a bad burn, of course. The operator Knew the transmission was defective! And i made sure it was How easy is that to get yourself killed?

Sorry, I've gone off on a tangent there...anyway safety, snatch straps, etc...there's a connection still.

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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:43

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 12:43
So how do you athe bogged semi on its way into camp? The water cart would well rip it in 2 if you just used slings or wire rope to pull it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:17

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:17
I was thinking much the same. So no straps and winches, how does one get extricated? Talking 4wd's only I guess - not the semi as above.

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Follow Up By: brd - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:42

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 15:42
Hi BenSpoon & Beatit

My response to VP700 below might elarorate a bit.

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Reply By: ev700 - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:17

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:17
Brid
Could you elaborate a bit more on their recovery methods - do mean it is dig and tow only?
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Follow Up By: brd - Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:59

Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 14:59
Hi EV700
I must say I haven't seen any recent recoveries on minesites, but they first do a risk assessment. This identifies all possible things that can go wrong. Whose ever authority it happens to come under would be involved, and the risks managed. If it is a light vehicle (eg 4x4), a tow from a larger piece of plant with a heavy sling/chain (something unbreakable in this exercise) is common. That gives total control...no momentum needed. Digging probably wouldn't be needed. I guess it depends on circumstances.

For heavy equipment rollovers, the engineers are involved. Nobody just puts a big sling around a $2million rear dump and hooks up to a dozer without doing the full risk assessment.

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