Pollies who have a clue do exist!!!

Submitted: Friday, Feb 10, 2006 at 23:59
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Just not in Australia it seems.

Sweden is planning to run their entire country with renewable energy (including all transport) within 15yrs. What an incredible and forward thinking (some would say bloody obvious) undertaking.

Sweden to use no Oil within 15yrs.

I think I'll have to move over there. Do they have an Outback ;)

Aaron.

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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:10

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:10
smart move.....and you can sell your Waeco before you go too :-)

Reiner
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:35

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:35
Nothing like a bit of Swiss bush!
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul J (ACT) - Monday, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:11

Monday, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:11
LOL
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 08:13

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 08:13
seemed extremely light on with details - yea they have geothermal for heating but as for the rest. Bio fuels utilizing forests - what does that mean chopping them down and burning them? Wind and wave power is still uneconomic compared to burning coal. It mentions Brazil with there ethonal - Well our sugar industry is enviromentally unfreindly enough as it is without expanding it. All sounds warm and Fluffy but the devil is often in the detail
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Follow Up By: Fusion - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 09:41

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 09:41
I agree light on details, but I think the article said the committee hadn't reported back to the government yet on how they will go about things.

It certainly won't be easy or cheap, but that's what makes it a forward thinking position, rather than waiting until there is no oil left. When the oil wars start in earnest (and they already have in Iraq) countries like Sweden will be potentially sitting pretty.

It would be nice if we could be in that position rather than just doing whatever the US tells us to do.

(A bit political I know, but the subject is about politicians ;)

Aaron.
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:44

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:44
Maybe they're planning something with methanol (i.e. wood alcohol)?
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:11

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:11
Move to Sweden? I hope you like taxes cause theirs make our ripoff governments look like amateurs at the taxing game

Here is a small extract from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden

The welfare state requires high taxes, but the population is generally affirmative of this. Sweden has a two step progressive tax scale with a municipal income tax of about 30% and a high income state tax of about 55% that kicks in when you earn more than about 300 000 SEK. The employing company pays an additional 32% of so called Employers fee. In addition, a national VAT of 25% is added to many things bought by private citizens except food (12% VAT), transports and books (6% VAT) with the exception of petrol/diesel (150% VAT)

The high rates of income taxation in combination with very influencial labour unions have kept differences in income at a minimum, resulting in little reward for individuals going through higher eduction as compared to individuals who start working for a living at an earlier age.

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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38

Saturday, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:38
much much better and more reliable government services though.

At least in Sweden you get what you pay for!
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Follow Up By: Pterosaur - Sunday, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:13

Sunday, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:13
quote "but the population is generally affirmative of this." end quote.

Says it all, I reckon. (And gives the lie to those who are constantly rabbiting on about how we've got to constantly "lower the tax rates", which IMHO just means the rich get taxed less, the rest of us more, and an overall reduction in the quality and quantity of government services to the population at large).

quote"The high rates of income taxation in combination with very influencial labour unions have kept differences in income at a minimum" end quote -

and this is a BAD thing ? ) BTW have a couple of those tertiary tickets myself, so I don't reckon I can be classified as being "envious of my betters" by anyone feeling the temptation. :-)

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