what type of shocks

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 21:25
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i have a 3.0ltr desiel hilux and am planning to go to cape york later this year with a weekend trip once a month 4wding/camping east coast NSW. my hilux has standard suspension and the shocks are original but does have arb lockers front/back. the shocks have done 100,000km and was thinking of changing them sooner rather than later.

what brand shocks do people recommend as every second page of 4wd monthly has another advertisement. I've heard that ranchos are the better? is this true?

wont be carrying super heavy loads and the boat i tow is a little 13ft tinny.
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 21:38

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 21:38
Rancho have been generally dudded here over the last couple of years as I recall. My formula (similar to yours) after I'd had enough of the homework, is....
Front - mono tube HP gas (runs cooler and minimal damage risk - chose Koni - there are one or two others - Bils etc).
Rear - twin tube HP gas - not so cool but better damage resistance (chose TJM XGS - there are many others). If your current ones are sound, though old, they make good spares for those out of the way, really rough trips, IMO.
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 21:55

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 21:55
Why change from stock toyota shocks.
If the rest of the suspension is stock I would shout it a set of new toyota shocks. Ask your local dealer for trade grade prices and I think you will be very surprised how cheap they are.
I just did an ayers rock, gunbarrell HW, Ghan railway and simpson crossing on stock toyota shocks and they performed well. I did have uprated springs so a little stiffer shocks would have been slightly better but the toyota shocks were faultless.

Hope this helps
120scruiser
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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:16

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:16
I have had RANCHO RS5000 on the front now for around 8000k’s Not much I know but no issues yet, I think people tend to have issues with RANCHO’s when they run a heavy Loaded 4WD with coil sprigs over a lot of ruff roads along with Hard core 4Wding for this application a big bore shock would be a better option Then you look at the list of other shock’s they have F**ked and you wonder why the have a grudge agenised RANCHO.

That being said there are a few people on here who run RANCHO with no problems, you just need to remember that every product can have problems and for the $210 for the pair of RS5000 there are not pricey at all.

I just returned from a 5day 3100k’s trip and discovered my front right top Rubber shock bush shredded, Not RANCHO’s fault but mine I used my old Original shock Bushing’s which sit slightly different and were larger so the TOP hat’s on the new shock were to small to hold them properly. That throne in with corrugated roads and some speed shredded them. I thought they would be better being larger and they held the shock a little better as well but well I was wrong, swapped back to the new correct sized ones today and all is good.
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Reply By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:18

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:18
Greetings

Cost effective, try the Munro brand. Available most places you travel and from personal experience worked well on my 4 runner. With the kilometres on your originals you will notice a BIG difference when they are replaced.

Regards

Paul
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Follow Up By: rustytruck - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:22

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:22
When I was in Halls Creek, the consensus there was Monroe Gas Magnum is used widely up in that area. Bought a spare set but had no requirement to use them yet.

Rustytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:31

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:31
Be a bit wary sometimes about what "everyone" is using coz thery arnt always using them coz they are the best. A case in point is the most common tyre on our minesite are Road grippers - coz they are cheaper than MTR which some of the more influential people get fitted.
Having said that I have used Monroe a few times and dont have complaints
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Follow Up By: Nebster - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:14

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:14
This is another one of those questions like what fridge should I get?

We had TJM series 2000 on, they werent bad, when they gave up the ghost, we ended up with a set of Monroes 4X4 Gas Magnums. Got a pair of shockies for the price of one TJM series 2000 shocky.

They come with a 3 year 60000 k warrenty, most mechanical places in the country are an authorised Monroe agent.

We did have one front monroe shocky let go about 2 weeks after we got them, they replaced both shockies free of charge.

We do a fair bit of 4wding a year, mostly in rocky and corragated gold field country and the odd trip around the cape area. Alls been good ever since.

Thats only our choice, not saying they are the best, but we have no complaints.

Ive heard, I dont know how true it is, but Monroe does make shockies for other brands as well.

Cheers
Have a good trip.
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Follow Up By: Goughy - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:21

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:21
Nebster, your right, Monroe make the nitrochargers for Old Man Emu among others, i had a set of Monroe's on my Hilux & were still on it when it went to that big wrecker in the sky thanks to a truck..
never had an ounce of trouble with them, when the Nitrochargers wear out on my 80 series, I'm gonna replace with Monroe
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Reply By: Tonbo - Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:41

Tuesday, Feb 14, 2006 at 22:41
100 000 definately due for a change.

I had standard toyota shocks on my troopy for many years and replaced them many times. I later switched to Old Man Emu and wished I did it sooner. The difference was dramatic.

Dont fool around with standard items, they are ok but are made cheap to keep costs down. Stranded at cape york with a bad shock and broken spring is not worth the dollars saved.Or the divorce !

I used standard springs with the OME shocks to keep the price down, upgrade later to better ones if the ride is still unacceptable.

Have fun !
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 00:13

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 00:13
I put OME on standard Toyota springs on the 80 100K ago. Great shock, they are still going strong BUT the springs are now NBG. This time I'm not mucking around, new OME suspension. The lot. That's how happy I've been with the OME product.
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Follow Up By: Goughy - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:28

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:28
I did the same on my 80, the difference was very noticeable, not a single regret, I am going to try the monroe shocks with the ome springs when the nitrochargers fail, I have a mate with an 80 who has the std suspension & said he will buy the Monroes off me if it doesn't perform close to the same, worth a try....
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:37

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 18:37
Goughy, I had Munroes on my HJ60. No worries. Certainly improved the handling on and offroad. I suspect that the OME shocks are vewwwy close to the Munroes :)
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 01:43

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 01:43
Jayse76

I am running the RS9000X adjustable's and have only good things to say about them
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Reply By: wheeler - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 07:04

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 07:04
I think you will find that OME do a shock which is valved to suit the OE springs. Aust made and very good quality. Very good nation wide back up if you do happen to need service or warranty.
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Reply By: friar - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:03

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:03
Hi Jayse76
Go to post 28846 it might be of some assistance.
Friar
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:13

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:13
If you want the best ones I would go for Bilsteins if you got IFS or Koni without IFS.
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Reply By: Member - Scooby (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:54

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 09:54
I have a 99 Hilux Dualcab SR5 (3litre diesel) and have fitted heavy duty Old Man Emus.
I find the front too hard on corrigations but good on the black top.
The rear is good when not carrying a load but does not control the ride when loaded. The next shocks I get will be adjustable.
Regards
Scooby
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Reply By: Smitty - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 14:09

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 14:09
Personally don't think you can go past Koni's!! A good feature is they can be serviced for $80 a shock ---- will last you the life of the vehicle easy!
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:31

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 17:31
Most reliable shocks for the sort of trips you're planning are the factory Toyota shocks. You will probably find they are also the cheapest option.
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Reply By: fredd - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 20:30

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2006 at 20:30
ive been to cape york twice in the past 18 months in a lc 100 standard suspension, no problems at all. so recommend toyota geear

fred
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