Sunday, Jan 26, 2003 at 08:32
John
We've towed firstly a Campomatic and then an Off Road Cub Supamatic all over the Kimberleys and in fact most of Australia (except for the CSR, vehicle only) over the last twenty years and there are a few things that you should take into account before purchase.
We also had a Jayco Swan extensively modified for outback touring and it was a dismal failure after using the smaller camper. Too heavy, too big, too wide etc etc also wasn't camping as you went inside and shut the door!
You don't say what vehicle you are using and this will affect what size camper you take. We had diesel Landcruiser for most of our trips and did try a Hilux for a couple of years, but the camper was too much of a strain off road.
We have found that the flip over style of camper is the best as you can
camp anywhere even in mud as you are off the ground, you can
camp on slopes by digging a wheel in and using wooden blocks to pack the roof rack/floor off the ground, they are light, can be manhandled by two people in a recovery situation and impose no real restriction on where you can take them.
Any trailer for off road use should have the same track as the towing vehicle. I don't agree that it should have the same tyre/wheel combo though as all of ours have used 14" wheels with 8 ply light truck radials which have proved to be tougher that the tyres on the truck on occasions. A trailer strong enough to take the unsprung weight of 15 or 16 inch tyres and wheels gets you on the weight versus strength merry go round.
Also make sure that the trailer is fitted with shock absorbers, a solid axle, and has an articulated hitch like a pintle hook, no tow balls!
The hitch, chassis and rear tow hook on the camper/trailer should also be strong enough to be used to snatch or winch the whole rig off in a recovery situation.
A box trailer based camper that sits on the ground can take a large flat area to erect which is not that common when
bush camping.
You also have to worry about burrs and sharp objects damaging the floor.
The other problem is that people tend to put too much gear in the trailer, the vehicle is the best place for heavy gear it is designed to take the pounding, trailers are not despite manufacturers claims.
All we carry in the camper is bedding, clothes, and some tinned food. All the water, fuel, food and cooking gear goes in the truck, the camper loaded with a spare wheel, a tyre case on the roof rack and all the bedding etc weighs less than 500kgs.
A lot of these fancy trailer based campers weigh close to a tonne before you load them up and are impossible to move by hand on flat ground let alone off road when you are stuck!
Talk to as many people (owners not salesman) as you can and decide whether you want a de facto caravan or a tent on wheels, all we do in ours is sleep 2 adults and three kids off the ground and out of the weather. We also tend to travel rarely stopping more than a few nights in one spot and also
bush camp except for the odd night in a
camping area to catch up on the washing and shopping.
Secondhand flip over campers can be quite cheap too, $4-6K will get you a basic supamatic with annexe, ours is the bare bones model no
water tank, frig or cupboards just two bunks and space. As I said earlier all the gear is in the truck.
What suits us may not be for everyone but we have found the ideal for our type of holidays.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Sunday, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:17
Sunday, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:17
Peter I have always been surprised the Campomatic and Supamatic have not been more popular. The flip over lid/floor I have always regarded as the best and ideal system for the reasons you state.
Some great advice in your post, especially about the trailer wheels weight - there is no substitue for experience.
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Follow Up By: Greg - Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:01
Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:01
John I have used a camper trailer for 30 years and if you intend to take it on the rougher roads (corrugated rough) then the lighter and stronger the better. Any of the hard floor models as mentioned above are great but they can fail. Also don't expect to take it across the Simpson or Canning although people do. The extra work required to take one in extreme conditions is not worth the effort and only damages the track for others. For general touring the Jayco's are great and will stand a little bit or hard work but not a lot. Go for the Campomatic,
Kimberley or Aussie Swag if you can afford a new one. A cheap second hand one should be throughly checked.
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 13:39
Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 13:39
Peter, thankyou very much for your reply. You have given me some valuable information. I have a 2.8L diesel Pajero ( non turbo) 1994 wagon. I guess I will need to think about how much I want to go offroad versus the extra comfort a wind up caravan provides. My two daugters that Iam taking will have school work etc to do and I will be on my own ( single dad) so I want to make it as easy on myself as possible while still being able to see most of the good spots.
Thanks again!
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