GU LWB Suspension

OME LTR's or Koni + Dobinson springs.

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reply I posted a while ago, some doesnt relate, but lots does.

50mm is limit in Qld and WA is becoming hard. Vic is nearly impossible to get engineers at the moment on lift kits..

Insurance jumps in $ and becomes very hard to find with over 75mm lift with lots of insurance companies. some even have a limit of 50mm and a few wont allow any lift at all.

You need an engineers certification to go 4inch or more which is becoming hard.
So start there.

What is the optimum lift? You can gauge that answer from these few questions. There is NO optimum lift answer really, there are too many variables.

Why do you need a lift? You need it or you want it?
What is your budget?
What sort of wheeling do you do?
Where do you wheel most? Outback? Mountains? Mud? Rocks?
How heavy is your truck fully loaded?
Do you tow regularly? What do you tow? How heavy is what you tow?
How many people usually travel in car?
What is the car mainly used for? Weekdays, occasional weekender? Weekend warrior only?
What accessories do you have fitted? Heavy front end, heavy rear with LRT, wheel carriers etc
What accessories do plan to have fitted in future?
What size tires do you run?
What size tires do you plan to run?

There is no hard and fast answer to the "optimum" lift size, there are numerous variables but you can get a start from these questions...

IMHO, with a GU, considering you can fit 36's with a 3inch lift, you dont really need more than that unless your truck weight 4.5ton like Roachies and tows the QE2.

What is good what is bad in Shocks and Springs??
You will get - and + stories on every single brand of shock and spring out there.

Shocks:
IMHO, you cant go wrong with OME Nitrochargers for the price, backup, warranty, and service.
If your after the better quality, go with LTR's, they are great. I run them with a 4nich lift and love them.

If you want the best in shocks, go KONI but you will pay for it. I have run them with a 2inch lift in the past, and would run them again tomorrow.

TJM XGS is very good also for the price. Again, I have run these when I had only the 2inch lift.

I had ranchos with a 6+inch lift, and they died 4 times, and others in our club have suffered same fate on GQ/GUs

Springs:
Dobinson or Kings are the best, tell them the answers to all the questions above and they can match a set of springs and shocks together, which is the most important part - MATCHED SHOCKS AND SPRINGS!

Good luck.

Mate, looking at your ride height they are sagged now.

Too bad the "testing" mob were the importer for Edelbrock, of coarse the Edelbrock shows out best, of coarse all the other brands got a bagging.

Hi Hero

I understand from the article that 4x4 did the the shock measurements, in car testing and reporting of the testing results. Yes it would appear that the Edelbrock did show out the best next to the Bilstein. By the way it was disappointing Koni was not one of the test shocks.

I dont think the article did bag all the other brands in fact the article really missed an opportunity to offer a comparision comment on all the shocks tested.

Regardless of where the testing was done it was apparently done on an internationally recognised dyno testing programme and machine.
My point is if you buy quality products generally yoiu will be rewarded with better performance and longeviety.

GGL

I agree, One thing I did think of when reading the artical was the lack of actual data, tests were obviously performed on dyno`s but published as opinions. was looking forward to maybe having some graph comparo`s. The debate on shock absorbers still reins unsolved. there is no doubt that the higher priced units are very good performers, only a fool would argue otherwise. Just wish the test was performed by an independant place, so the obvious Edelbrock advertising is not inserted into the artical, when no other suspension part was detailed like the Edelbrock.

WOW GGL!
Going by all that self promoting dribble I think you had better go and stand in line behind your mates Bill. S. and Derek. and wait your turn.

Avagoodn
Pezza

Hi Pezza

Just the facts mate. Glad to see that you run Koni. Good shocks.

GGL

Just wondering if GGL is Gordon Lee - Aussie Boys Toys? (ABT)
Who conducted the test in 4x4 Australia and are the Edelbrock importer?

Are you being a little bias?

GGL's possible undisclosed hidden agenda and self testing circus cast a shadow of doubt on integrity if you ask me.

Personally I like this disclaimer from their web site:

"All products sold and manufactured by ABT are for off-road use only."

Hi Crazie

Fair question. Yes Sean Lee at ABT 4x4 is my son. No I dont believe I have disiplayed any bias. This is my second posting on the site in 12 months and I was responding to Mike's request.

The testing for the magazine article was done by 4x4 Aust together with Suspension Technology Aust. who are the Australian Importer for Edelbrock shocks. ABT had no input into the actual testing or reporting.

ABT works with STA on the development of shock systems and suspension components. ABT supplied the labour forthe various suspension changes for the article. ABT sells Fox, Swayaway, BBC and Edelbrock shocks. ABT also recommends Bilstien and Koni and will also supply these if required.

I was up front when I suggested Mike speak to Sean at ABT. He knows about suspension components and he gives sound advice to those who seek information. Callers can make make up the own mind.

Personally as I said to Hero "I think the article failed to give a comparison of the shocks and did not include Koni" and "Regardless of where the testing was done it was apparently done on an internationally recognised dyno testing programme and machine".and "if you buy quality products you will be rewarded with better performance and longevity"

This latter was the point I was making to Mike initially. Edelbrock Bilstein and Koni are quality products and the added initial expense in purchasing a quality product will be recouped over the long term.

My suggestion to Mike still stands.

GGL

"I was up front when I suggested Mike speak to Sean at ABT"

LOL!!

From the dictionary:

Adjective: upfront úp'frúnt
Frank and honest
"he was upfront about his intentions"

Being up front would have included disclosure of family ties

Dear GGL

All good. Just wondered

cheers

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