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Submitted: Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:18
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or five with your turbo timer...... yeah great idea until you're on that hill and you need to kill the engine quickly to stop you from rolling back down.

Fumbling for the kill switch is not a good look while 3t is rolling backwards towards the edge of that rather steep drop over the wonderful view you just admired.

Why why why is there not a on/off switch with this bluddy thing or am I missing something.... as usual.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:36

Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:36
The turbo timer on our old rodeo(ex work vehicle)was adjustable from one to five minutes and also had a stop button to stop engine straight away.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ozdyssey (QLD) - Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:52

Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:52
Still applys Nick but I think they still need a separate switch to isolate it when offroad.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:38

Friday, Mar 10, 2006 at 23:38
Want to picture a funny situation, I hadn't been into 4x4s long after i got my 94 Model Rocky and went out and purchased some good gear at the 4x4 shops and one one fancy piece of equipment i got was an exhaust jack , so I thought I would give my old Man a demo, Started up the motor, run around the back to watch and when I thought it was high enough run back to the door to turn engine off ,turned key and ,and , and, the B##@** bags getting biger and bigger and my car is really leaning , I tell you i made a fast reach in for the turbo timer button ,My Daughter was near rolling on the ground in laughter, Yep one learns by experience eh.

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Reply By: Redeye - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 05:16

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 05:16
Aren’t turbo timers inconvenient ?

Here in lovely Qld It is illegal to leave the vehicle while the motor is running. This legislation is relatively new.
Also how do you get on with a manual. I usually leave my vehicle in 1st gear when parked especially on a hill.

Red eye
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:28

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:28
In NSW for 35 years there have been these requirements when leaving the vehivcle -
Switch off the engine
Apply the Park brake
Lock the vehicle

Mike
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 06:30

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 06:30
Ozdyssey,

It can be a heart stopper when that happens.

The turbo timer should have a stop switch, but I guess it all gets down to where the turbo timer is located. My turbo timer is set just near the ignition key, so when the vehicle is into stall mode the key is turned of and the button is pushed almost in the same time.

I suppose it all gets back to location, location, location.

Wayne
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:49

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 07:49
I know of one person that was camped in a remote location who reached in the window to turn the ignition switch to the accessories position, went too far and started it, his wife was sitting in the shade beside the car on the passengers side and the open door flattened her and the truck ended up parked against a tree before he could stop it.
He rather quickly disconnected the turbo timer.
I have a turbo timer on my petrol turbo car but it is auto and impossible to start in gear and is always in park when stationary.
Can see problems with manuals though, many insurance companies will not insure you if one is fitted to a vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:20

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:20
We have the turbo timer that ARB sell in two of our work utes. It has 30 sec position then 1, 2 , 3, 4 and 5 minute settings. However if you turn the car off within 30sec of starting then the turbo timer doesn't operate. So if what happened above all he would have to have done was turn the car off and it would have stopped.

Ours are automatics though so it wouldn't happen at all.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 08:09

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 08:09
Ozdyssey
Does the turbo timer still operate the engine if the engine is stalled?

If you are on that hill and need to stop.... the correct procedure is to stall the engine.... not just turn it off! That's what I (and many others that I know of) have learnt to do, and AFAIK it is taught nationally by off road trainers/club DAP's etc....
If you don't know this procedure, I strongly suggest you learn it.......

I have been on our clubs DAP day, and have heard many new members say they have been wheelin' for years and never knew how to do the Stall Start..... and all of them said that they had been in some sticky situations in the past where proper technique would have made things a whole lot easier!

Not trying to be a smartarse here, I have seen what can go wrong when procedure isn't followed correctly and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Just my opinion

Brian
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Reply By: the real chopper - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 09:06

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 09:06
My turbo timer has an on/off switch rather than a kill switch. If you don't want to use it, you don't turn it on... simple.
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Follow Up By: Peter - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 22:09

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 22:09
Yep same here. Don't see what the problem is. I use the turbo timer when I need it otherwise just leave it turned off. If the car stalls the timer just cuts out. Got me lost what all the fuss is about, it's a personal choice
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Reply By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 13:16

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 13:16
G'day Ozdyssey,

My thoughts are along the same lines as Brian's, I don't know what predicament you were in, but why would you not stall it out ? If you were in reverse at the time then killing the engine would not have done anything that pushing in the clutch and jumping on the brakes would not have done. If you were in 1st going up then you use the stall technique.
If you're not sure on this technique, no shame in that as we all had to learn it at some stage, and if you are not in a club, or want the expense of doing a training course, then come along to the next EO gathering and one of us will show you.
I would also suggest that turning the key off in that situation is extremely dangerous as you would most likely turn it too far and in some vehicles activate the steering lock, not a good look, trust me, I've tried it with an accelerater stuck in wide open due to an inverted accelerater linkage at around 180 kph with a corner coming up, and heading backwards towards a hill with no steering would be no more fun.

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Reply By: boogyman - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 16:22

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 16:22
if you just brake and let it stall it eliminates the function of the turbo timer.....dont touch that clutch!
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Reply By: chips59 - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 16:54

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 16:54
I have an ARB t/timer on my patrol and what i did when fitting it was put a switch in the earth line so it only works when I want it to.
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Reply By: Member - David 0- Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 19:42

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 19:42
Mine won't work unless the handbrake is on and it has an off switch
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Reply By: chips59 - Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 22:17

Saturday, Mar 11, 2006 at 22:17
the earth must be hooked up to the handbrake light.
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