Turbo Diesel or Petrol V8

Phil,

I would recommend the diesel. The petrol cruiser is lucky to get 600km from the 140+L of fuel while the diesel will easliy get 900+km from the same tanks.

As regards the TD or natural that is personal preference. I have got a new LC105 with nonturdo diesel engine and fine it easily cruises at the highway speed with out effort. The only time I notice the difference is taking off at lights and on loing hills when I don't get the approach right. My last car was a petrol prado so I have driven both. The diesel is far better.

Cashy

I thought Diesels had longer service intervals.

There is a model of 100 series lunching front diffs fairly regularly...Not sure.

Go with the Diesel. You wont regret it.

You should also think about the resale value down the track .

There are plenty of second hand petrol landcruisers around for sale but people jump on the diesel one as soon as the come up especially the turbo version.

kev.

Turbo Diesel seems to be the way to go !

I've read that they need to be serviced every 5000Klms (minor service) - is there any truth to that for the 100 series ?


Thanks
Phil P

Phil P

The Warranty & Service book, which seems to cover every Landcruiser in the 100 series recommends changing both the oil and filter at 10,000 Kms or 6 month intervals, with a further recommendation that if the vehicle is operqated under 'severe' conditions, the changed should be done at 5,000 Km (3 month) intervals.

I have just purchased a Turbo diesel and the dealer's service department have told me that the oil should be replaced every 5,000 Kms with a filter change every 10,000 Kms.

Another mechanic has told me that with today's oils, 7 or 8,000 Km changes are O.K. I'll stick with the 5,000 Km changes for the time being.

As to the vehicle, it is superb, with plenty of "get up and go" and over three fuel purchases so far, is averaging just under 22 mpg. It is extremely quiet, with very little diesel rattle, no diesel smell and no smoke.

Shop around the dealers as the prices can be quite "negotiable".

Jim

I read somewhere that the Turbo Diesel motor is direct injection and the not turbo motor is indirect (I might be wrong here). Technically the Turbo motor is far better, which equals resale. I guess you have to ask yourself:
-How long do you plan on keeping it? (I expect mine to go & go & go @20Ks per year)
-The comment I hear is the insurance co may not allow turbo timers
-Are you happy with higher frequencies of maintenance? (organising it & no car for a day)
-Petrol is definately cleaner burning (if you are a greeny) with LPG options as it age (warranties etc)
-If I have a healthy bank account I will have a 100 series petrol model for the wife to run kids to school & shopping (stop start running definately suits a petrol engine). My Diesel baby is great for Touring!
-The full time 4WD feature is definately good for family trips where safety in paramount. Imagine the tar seal disappears into gravel/dirt, you just keep driving without thinking about engaging 4WD mode. I would really love a Patrol if it is full time 4WD...(maybe in the future)

Think of it as a investment (asset) & follow your heart buddy!

Enjoy..

Phil, you'll have to do some homework. Verify the service intervals of both engines. Remember that the diesel will take around about twice the amount of oil for a change. Factor in costs of filters, spark plugs, air cleaners etc. Be honest with yourself about the type of driving you are doing. Resale on any landcruiser is not an issue. If it has been looked after, regularly maintained then either petrol or diesel will resale well.

Phil,

I picked up my 100 Series TD GXL a month ago and have already done 5,000klms on both bitumen and dirt. It is with out question the best vehicle I have owned/driven. Fuel economy is great, the ride is smooth and the wife finds easy to manage. I've owned a VX Petrol Prado, TX TD Prado and Triton Dual Cab Petrol and even though these vehicle were great the 100 Series is definately the best. As for the service intervals the is a fact of today and seems pretty standard across the board. $85.00 for a minor service at Toyots isn't to bad.

Hope that is of assistance.

Hoo Roo,

Jamie

Phil,

I picked up my new GXL in December, it’s not the turbo version cause I didn’t want the IFS and the price of the TD is about $15k more. I am more than happy with my live axle non-turbo model and have been keeping track of the fuel situation. See below:

Odometer Litres used Km's travelled L/100 KM KM/L
0
788 95.89 788.00 12.17 8.22
1624 105.80 836.00 12.66 7.90
2196 71.25 572.00 12.46 8.03
3146 115.03 950.00 12.11 8.26
3977 100.40 831.00 12.08 8.28
4941 116.41 964.00 12.08 8.28

I’m hoping for around 1200 km’s when I use the whole 145 litres. It’s a bit slow from stop as other people mentioned but when your cruising it’s not an issue, after all if I wanted to drag race I’d get a sports car. It’s also not an issue when 4Wding as the beast has more than enough power when in low range and the rigid axle is much better in the rough.

Cheers,
Chris

Thanks for all your assistance, I'm sold on diesel.

Not wanting to start a "thread" storm, but is the Toyota worth the extra $20K compared to the 3.0L Patrol ?

I have owned both landcruisers and patrols (GU3LTCurrently) and i would not say that one is better than the other it comes down to personal preference and what you can afford. The Landcruiser will get better resale than the Patrol because you pay more for in the first place but as truckster said you can get a lot of after market parts for $20000.

Thanks everyone for your responses.