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Does anyone have a good remedy for keeping the little buggers out of the camper trailer/tent? We have given the baygon a go, around the support legs,jockey wheel etc but just wondering if anyone has a better solution? I was thinking of getting a potent solution of some sort,and loading it into a 5ltr sprayer and dowsing the formentioned with it.This is purely for areas of HIGH ant content! Interested to hear some others thoughts.
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Reply By: J.T. - Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 23:46

Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 at 23:46
Used talcom powder years ago up north and it smelled a treat too.Just sprinked it where ever tent touches ground or form a border.
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Follow Up By: Kumunara (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:47

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:47
Correct JT

PS. It is better for the environment than insect spray, cheaper and more effective.
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Reply By: disco driver - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 00:53

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 00:53
What sort of "Potent solution of some sort"????

Things like malathion, dieldrin, heptachlor,arsenic etc all work well on ants but there is NO WAY that they should be used around people and/or campsites.

Stick with baygon or similar and use B&G talcumpowder as well.
Ants are part of the "camping experience" .
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Reply By: JJ - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:15

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 01:15
Last year first in Katherine (NT) & then Broome (WA), had millions of the tinyist little buggers in our Poptop. They fell from overhanging trees, getting in through the 'vents' in the soft-top. They loved bread and moist areas. They got into the fridge. Even into the cordless water jug, wrecking it. And ate tiny holes & got into noodle packets & cooking oil.
We sprayed outside and wiped them up with a wet tissue inside, all to no avail!
Then suddenly had a think and made 'baits' with a small piece of bread on a piece of plastic planted around in obvious spots... wasn't long & each was covered in ants. Carefully picked them up & dumped in the garbage bin.
It took many days and a lot of kms. but I finally got rid of them.
As to how to prevent them getting in? Beats me, cos they were already in when we noticed them!
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Follow Up By: Kumunara (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:45

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:45
The ants you are talking about are ginger ants and will eat through wiring including you vehicle, fridge and trailer, etc.
The best solution is to put talcom powder around your vehicle. The cheap home brand is all you need and it will do the trick.
Do not park near or under trees as they will drop from the trees.
If you have a power cord running to your camper, spray that with surface spray.
Do it when you set up and it will prevent them getting in.
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Follow Up By: JJ - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:53

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:53
Thanx for ID of ants.
On these occasions too late for talc trick & power cord _ first action taken when discovered. They were already in. Problem was getting them out!
Even tried wiping around where they entered (in & out) with surface spray on tissue – no go. Found the only way was with the bread as above.

In peak season, NOT easy NOT to set-up under trees in C/parks.
In Top End heat, who would park in full sun when there's shade?
One indication that ants are a prob is check if other campers have (van) legs in pans of water or smell like a baby's bum!
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:47

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:47
Just buy the small Ant Guard from DSE. Plugs into the cigarette lighter, and it MUST be placed on the ground, and the small earthing spike attached to it must be embedded at least 50 mm. deep.

Depending on the area you are in, the manual that accompanies the unit, will guide you in the frequency range to select, to work against the ants encountered. the manual is a guide only, and you may have o experiment a little.

Works a treat! Once you've got the frequency all sorted out, you can literally leave food around the place in say.... a 5 metre radius, and all you'll get is flies.

Draws 0.75 Amps / Hour, and you only need to run it during the daytime, obviously.

Mine cost me $89.95.

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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:40

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:40
Is there a gadget you don't have yet Wolfie?

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:20

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:20
i dont believe it works...give me a lend of it to test....
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:21

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:21
ps will they work on swmbo's
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Follow Up By: Bros 1 - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:24

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:24
Wolfie,
You are getting as much stuff as Roachie. LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:53

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:53
a 3 ton delica?
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:28

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:28
Yeah but Roachie's stuff is all hardwired in or bolted on, Wolfie is the portable widget Mr Gadget!

An electric fence for ants!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 14:41

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 14:41
Are you serious Wolfie, this thing works?

Pity about the hefty current draw
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 17:33

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 17:33
Ray, .75 amps is not much, considering the benefits derived.

The process is an old one, developed in the States, during the late 70's, for farmers, along the flood-plains, who use fresh water floods to irrigate large strawberry crops. They worked out, that ants never seemed to come above ground in great numbers after dark, or during wet weather. The finding was an accident waiting to happen, as one of the guys working some of the plantations, used to work on seismic studies during the off seasons, and he was aware of the anomalies present, during these dark and wet times. As it turned out, the magnetic flux lines, or something, are changed when the sun is overhead, and are also changed when the relative humidity is VERY high, so they set about finding how to isolate the frequencies that insects use as their alarm clocks, and change them, making them think it's wet, and dark outside. Seems to work quite a treat.

I believe the system is used widely overseas in some of the vegetable industries as well. It was only a matter of time before we got it here, like we did with mozzie zappers, and those ultra violet light thingies that attract flies, then zap them.

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 17:48

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 17:48
That's amazing stuff Ian. I'm considering the benfits of these devices around the home as I live in an ant infested area and the little monsters are proving more difficult to control every year. At times things are so desperate the mind turns to weapons of mass destruction but we just can't seem to find any.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:08

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:08
I wouldn't use the DSE units for home Ray, as you would need quite a few. There are larger units available, which use either 110 - 240 volts, and connect to the earth on your household supply. It does the same thing, as well as also giving you the voice capability we all know about.

They are available in the States, but do not, for some reason, pass our codes here, something to do with pulsing, or something... not sure.

Anyway, they'll send you one over. Mem Mes me if you want their email.

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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:21

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:21
Amazing stuff on this forum. Interesting gadget.
Now termites are not related to ants, so would they work on termites as well at home ??
Got any web sites for reference?

Big shakeup in the termite industry at the moment with the building code requiring 50 year life spans (maintenance allowed) on termite protection, now houses are deemed to have a 50 year life span.

We have had both an ant and termite problems at home.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:25

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:25
The termite problem is a whole different kettle of fish, as they are never interested in daylight, ever.

They will follow tree roots, for quite a distance, and this is how they normally traverse, unless a new colony is going to start.

The termites also have this uncanny ability to be able to work out the geographical orientation, as can be seen in the Northern Territory, with the placements of their finned towers, but on what system they use, is yet to be determined.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:57

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 18:57
I have found that SHOUTING at ants works well.

I walk along their trail and find their nest and then shout;

"WTF DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING HERE, HUH? GO AWAY IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL LAY SOME POISON DOWN!!!!"

Must be something in the vibrations as the ants leave shortly afterwards.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:38

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:38
Willem, there is, believe it or not, some credence in your statement.

In India, some of the Buddhist Monks who live in the mountains, have taken it upon themselves to never bring harm to any sentient beings, and ants, come under that category.

Now, we have all probably seen the photographs, or film files of monks who use a broom, and sweep the path ahead clear of ants, so as not to tread on them. What you HAVEN'T seen, is the other method used, although there is much practice involved.

The higher Monks, can resonate their voices, and use circular breathing, in a walking meditation, to actually paralyse ants, and other living beings.

The American defence forces were quite interested in this method, back in the 60's, and tried, unsuccessfully, to record the harmonics, and frequency of their tones. Since then, the Monks have abstained from this practice, as nowadays, a simple recording could easily replicate the sound, what with better microphones, etc., and the Monks believe that one should follow the righteous path, and earn the talent, instead of copying it from a tape, and using against other humans, to inflict harm.

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:42

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:42
OMG this stuff is interesting but I think in Willems case it's the rocket fuel fumes scaring the ants away :)
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:46

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 19:46
Actually Ray, there is also something in your statement as well.

You see, any lizard, that eats ants will have it's nostrils placed higher on its head, so as to vent off the Folic acid, that is given off when the ants are chewed. The smell of Folic Acid will ward off the other ants.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:02

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:02
Ray....LOL

Wolfie

And when those lizards mate they produce Frolic Acid
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:06

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:06
Willie, I just spat out Bourbon & Coke on my keyboard!

Gotta log out, turn off & clean it...

...bye...
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:08

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:08
you all are trying to make me believe somthing that i know cant happen arnt you
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 22:45

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 22:45
How many days now until April 1 ?

Mike
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Reply By: Dave Thomson - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:34

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 15:34
Hi,
yes I do know a few ways that work , the best way , it's gaurenteed to work is go to Bunnings and buy a tub of AMDRO it's expensive at around $60.00 but if you know someone else with an ant problem you could share the cost, once opened it lasts about aa year and only takes a few granules to do the job , thats the best way, failing that you can buy a tub of BORAX and mix half a teaspoon of it with half a teaspoon of honey and that too will go , trick is not to kill them but let them take it back to the queen and in about 2 days their gone, that should cost about $5.00 these 2 remedies will work,
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Reply By: Barnesy - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:12

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:12
Well done lone wolf. tell me please, how do you know so much about ants?
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:26

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 20:26
Entomology is one of my hobbies.

It started when I was a kid, and I used to pull the wings off flies, then it progressed to super gluing sewing pins to ants, and turning them into real soldier ants with lances.

As I grew older, the novelty wore off, until one day, I saw my first Red Back spider encased in a clear plastic gearshift knob at Repco, and I knew then, that that was to be the turning point for me.

When I go away with Tracy, we draw rectangles on the inside of our windscreen, with a chinagraph pencil, and after a 1000 km trip, we tally up the dead bugs in each rectangle, and work out who the winner is.

Okay, I'll come clean...

EVERYTHING I posted, except the Folic Acid thing, is crap. Couldn't help myself. I was at work today, thinking of those poor little buggers working at DSE, taking calls all day long about Ant Guard!

So, there ya go.... it was all shlt. Can't let ya all go on all night, can I?

Wolfie

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Follow Up By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:27

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 21:27
If I have a heart attack and die from laughing Wolfie, my wife will hound you to death as well. I'm trying to write a note as I type.............. Wolfie did it........
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:15

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:15
you baaastad
i was starting to belive you......hahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:26

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 22:26
What a cack! That was better than 'The Glass House' on Ch 2 just then. Creative genius at the most demented level. Thanks Wolfie.
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Follow Up By: t0me (WA) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:18

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:18
You're a champion Wolfie :-)
Bloody brilliant.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 22:49

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 22:49
"EVERYTHING I posted, except the Folic Acid thing, is crap. "

. . . . errrr, and that should have been Formic Acid.

Mike
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Reply By: rickwagupatrol - Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 23:40

Wednesday, Mar 22, 2006 at 23:40
leanne says that if you were her child, you would have been sent to scrub the dunny with a toothbrush...lol,
and that you need to go get yourself a new jigsaw puzzle if you are that bored at work...
you bugger, you even had me thinking for a minute, and i used to do pest control.....lololol :)

rick.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:53

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:53
wolves are pests hehehehe
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:52

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:52
Your too honest wolfie.

Good one!!!

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Reply By: Bros 1 - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 00:06

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 00:06
Wolfie and Willem,
Both South Aussies.
Both start with W.
Both suck everone (me too) in periodically. LOL.
Everone knows the story of the lad who cried "wolf".
Cheers,
Bros.
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 19:07

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 19:07
I ignored this thread as I have never had an ant problem. I called in to see Wolfie today and he recommended I read it. I'm glad I did it's an absolute classic.

Wolfie you have too much time on your hands and an overactive imagination, not a good combination.
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