Carrying spare oils on a long trip

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:59
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The specs for my Prado 120 transfer & diff oils are:
- transfer: Gear Oil API GL-5
- diffs: Hypoid gear oil API GL-5
If I carry some spare oil for an emergency (eg: topping up a leaking diff / transfer case) then can i get away with carrying just one of these oil types for both?
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:22

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:22
Drew
Don't see why not, if only for emergency, but surely if you only had them small containers they won't take up much room. .....leave a 6 pack behind ,you can't run that VB or XXXX in ya diff
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Reply By: desert - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:36

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:36
You could just carry the Hypoid gear oil to cover both diffs and transfer. Have you overlooked the gearbox or is that a sludgematic?
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Follow Up By: Member - Drew T (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:43

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:43
yep .. it's an auto
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Reply By: Notso - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:39

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:39
I would be talking to the Oil manufacturer about the suitability of the oil before I used it in a different application
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:03

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:03
Not sure I'd bother with all the oils but from a recent experience make sure you have diff oil and make sure it's enough for say 2 changes. Had the patrol lose a breather hose (that's another story) and it gussled some water in Lichfield NP. It didn't take long to start making horrible noises. Could not get the correct oil in Katherine and ended up having to do 2 changes to purge all the moisture. This leads me to also suggest have a filler device because anything else is bloody hard.

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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 15:47

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 15:47
talking about filler devices, I bought one of these red manual, piston type, oil transfer pumps, the ones with an in and an out hose. Usless things they are if its a thick gear oil you're trying to pump. Hard work, especially if you're trying to pump while lying under the 4WD. The outlet hose seal/ retainer of this pump is a poor design, liable to jump off without notice when the pressure comes on.

There are containers available that can be pressurised to transfer the oil, sounds like a much better idea but a bit pricey for the odd oil change if one just wanted to take it on a trip.

Anybody have other working ideas for this chore? Something home made perhaps?
I tried the funnel/ gravity feed method but it takes a rather long hose and a very long time plus the oil in the hose has to be drained before stowing the lot afterwards.

Klaus
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 15:52

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 15:52
I bought one of those syringe thingies (can't think of the brand but that mob makes a lot of lubrication devices), anyway it is OK but messy but no bigger than a grease gun and can be be taken along. The Nissan took 3 litres in the diff seemed to take for ages.

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Follow Up By: desray - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 19:39

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 19:39
V8troopie I use one of those 5 Litre garden sprays from Bunnings $10. Put the oil in and pump up ,cut the (wand) shorter to fit in the diff/gearbox,works good for me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 18:42

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 18:42
Like desray says, the garden sprayer is brilliant
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:18

Thursday, Mar 23, 2006 at 20:18
Just carry some LS90 oil.
That will do the rear LSD as well as the front diff. A bit of an overkill for the front diff but will do the job in an emergency. It will also do the transfer case.
In an emergency like I tell my customers, any oil is better than none.
The auto will take toyota Type IV. Nothing else.
120scruiser
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Follow Up By: Member - Drew T (VIC) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:52

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:52
actually my rear diff has a ARB air-locker hence why i only mentioned the Hypoid gear oil API GL-5 (which is specified for the front diff & therefore what i have been told to use in the rear too)

based on that would you still recm i used LS90 for both diffs & the transfer case (in an emergency)

PS: what is LS90 anyway?
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Follow Up By: Member - Drew T (VIC) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:33

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:33
actually just found this description for LS90 Gear Oil on the web:

"ACDelco LS90 Gear oil is an all-season, high performance, LS hypoid gear oil for highly stressed normal and limited slip differentials in cars, vans, trucks, buses, tractors, construction and industrial machinery
SPECIFICATIONS: API GL-5, SAE 90
APPLICATIONS: Limited slip differentials requiring an API GL-5, SAE 90 gear oil."
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 15:38

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 15:38
I run ls90 in most constant 4wd front and rear diffs because it is good oil.
But because you have a locker just 80/90 would be fine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 18:45

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 18:45
A lot of workshops simply stock LS90 as a universal diff oil as its fine for the front diff as well, and costs about the same as LS90. If I had to carry one oil as a spare, it would be LS90, and I'd happily slip it into the transfer case in an emergency.
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