Why isn't tyre pressure an exact science?
Submitted: Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 14:43
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Member - Bware (Tweed Valley)
Since reading Norm C's post (this is all your fault ;) ) about skinny tyres, my faith in my tyre pressures went out the window. After numerous searches here and elsewhere I just don't know where to turn (sob!). I've always used Pirelli's Rule;
check when cold and if they are 4 psi higher when warm then this is the correct pressure.This is why I have always run 32psi on an empty vehicle. If Pirelli's rule is correct, what is it correct for? Comfort, even wear or tyre load?
Then there's the manufacturer's reccommended pressures which in other posts has been explained as comfort (which is 32 for 275/70/16).
In Norm's post plenty of people run 235/85's at 45psi or more but I presume this is loaded up.
Mine are BFG A/T's which seems to mean that the brand makes a difference as
well (references to stiffer sidewalls etc)
I'm thinking I would like my tyres to wear evenly so what pressure = even wear?
The BFG website has loads of info but nothing about pressures.
The Beaurepairs website in its 'tyre tips' section states "Always keep tyre pressures at the levels recommended by car manufacturers". Then in the same paragraph states "Using the recommended high speed/full load pressures will provide improved safety and wear for day to day driving". ??? That's 80psi for my tyres!
So what's left? Experimentation. Run your $1000 tyres at whatever pressures you think are right then when they start to wear unevenly you adjust but will still have more wear on the already worn part.
So I'm running 40psi. Why? I think they need more than 32 but less than 50. How do I know that? I don't; it's guessametrics. It seems that for all the research into tyre construction/handling etc when it gets into the consumer's hands there is no difinitive
information on what to do with them except put them on your wheels.
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 16:56
Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 16:56
Bware,
I have come across a lot of
views on tyre pressure.
I had a bloke that was told by the tyre fitter "expert" that 65 psi was the pressure to run 265/75/16 BFG A/T. The so called "expert" looked on the side of the tyre and saw "Max Pressure when cold". This must be the best tyre pressure. That is how simple it is to be a "expert".
I have been on the outback dirt roads and have been told that the tyre pressure that I am running is too high.
The "experts" say to run them at 26psi on the dirt. I then ask what vehicle are you driving?
The Lux ute over there, or something like that is the answer.
That pressure is fine for a ute that has no weight. For a fully ladened vehicle that is packed for a trip it is a bit low. The "expert"also say that you will get a
puncture if you run the tyre pressure and higher than 26 psi.
So they will never get a flat at 26 psi.If they cold guarantee that I would not get a flat I would run the tyres at 26 psi.
So what pressure do I run as an "expert".
38 psi, expect on sand then it goes down between 20 psi/ 15 psi.
I can not guarantee that you will not get a flat, but this is the pressure that I run, for my vehicle and the speed that I drive at on dirt roads.
There can be a lot of debate about this, some run a higher pressure and some a lower, but it would be only 4 psi either way.
The vehicles that I run 38 psi on have been the 80 Series and the Troopie.The 80 Series had 32/11.5R/15 BFG Muddies and the Troopie 285/75/16 Cooper STT.
So your can make up your own mind about the tyre pressure you should run or listen to a "expert"
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 04:52
Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 04:52
Yeah, there's plenty of them around LOL.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 09:34
Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 09:34
I was told that an expert was a drip under pressure.......
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:50
Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:50
Bware,
Tyre manufactures don't do long term
test on vehicles in Australia. 99% of tyres are imported and they are made to the country of origin conditions.
Some, after the tyre has been made then bring them into Australia, for further testing. I was given a set of tyres to
test and have been along with other drivers reporting back on how the tyres are performing.
The other thing with tyre pressure is that if it was stated by a tyre manufacture that you should run the tyres at Xpsi and something happened. They would be sued at the drop of a hat. That is why they only recommend.
The other thing is how much pressure do you really have in the tyres. How good is your tyre pressure gauge. Unless you pay $300 for a oil filled top of the line unit that has been calibrated then the science of tyre pressure is never going to be exact.
IMHO if you were to run the tyres any where between 36 and 40 psi you will be very close to getting the most out of your tyres.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:15
Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:15
All good points Wayne. I knew litigation had to come into it somewhere LOL. You can't even get a straight answer from doctors at the hospital anymore because they're afraid of litigation through mis-diagnosis. Political correctness and litigation: the gods of modern society.
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