100 Series oil pressure

Submitted: Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:06
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Where should the oil pressure gauge sit when driving.Our GXL sits just under the three quater mark while a loaner std model we have at the moment sits just under the top high mark.
Been waiting 4 weeks for our cruisers pump to be done and now we have a lend vehicle we carnt get out of Kununurra because of floods.Man there's some major water about,any one thats done Ivanhoe's crossing,the water tonight is nearly at the top of the concrete on the road going down to the crossing(about half way up the down hill section to the crossing).
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Reply By: guzzi - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:16

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:16
Nick,
pressure depends on a few different factors,
Oil viscosity 15w or 20w etc
How long the oils been in service
Oil temp
Oil filter type + new or old
Spring strength on the bypass/relief valve
Age of the engine and how its been maintained.
Clearences in the oil pump,
Accuracy of the oil pressure guage.
A healthy engine will probably have 4 to 8 bar when cold and settle to between 3 and 5 bar hot, if its got less than 2 bar youve got problems, all these at 2 to 3 thousand RPM.
Hope this helps
Seems its raining everywhere except brisbanes catchment areas, bugger.
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:51

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:51
Hey Nick

How are you coping with the heat after Tassie?
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:02

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:02
Gday Willem,we love it.Today was only 26deg,pouring with rain all day.It takes a bit of getting used to working with sweat pouring off you when its hot.We bought a A/C unit for the camper so we can sleep at night,before we had that it was unbearable to be in,even in the middle of the night you'd wake up and be in a pool of sweat(and thats without playing up).
Last week it was around 32-35 most days,you sweat but its ok,I work in a big open workshop and apart from sweating its quite bearable.Did I mention you sweat alot!!
Now if only we could get our vehicle back -----.
At this stage we have no intentions of going "Home".Its Great
Cheers Nick
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:13

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:13
Yeah its a good place.

We lived there for 8 months Jan to Aug 1982

I remember that during March the temp got to 38 every day. Even after living in Darwin for many years we could not get used to the heat...lol

Enjoy
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:54

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 21:54
Nick,

If the motor is not running and the needle is at the bottom of the gauge, that is fine.
If the motor is at idle and the needle moves up when the revs go up than that is OK.

It is only a gauge and it will vary. I had a 80Series that the needle never got above 1/4 mark. That went on for 8 years.

If you are still concerned install a aftermarket gauge.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:04

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 22:04
No,not worried,just curious.
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Reply By: ev700 - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:06

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:06
For the 100 Series the Owner's Manual says that the pressure recorded on the guage should be:

When idling - between the lowest mark (at bottom of scale) and the three quarter mark on the scale; and

For mormal running - between the first quarter mark and the top mark (maximum on the scale).

The manual says (page 106): "If the needle should stay below the normal range, pull off thev road to a safe place and stop the engine immediately." There is also a separate warning notice to this effect.

EV700
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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:58

Friday, Mar 24, 2006 at 23:58
Nick, does this help!MPG:8!
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:38

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:38
Yeah thats about where the needle sits in our renta unit.
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Reply By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:47

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 00:47
Nick

I had a fleet vehicle from work and going bush from Alice and low oil pressure showing on guage about 15 minutes north of Alice so thought I'd do the right thing and returned to Alice to swap vehicles. Fleet guy on the desk stated all these 100 series diesels vary and none have failed,,,yet,,, I don't know what you are worrying about!!!!!

I took another 100 series diesel and guage was where I expected it to be ie top 30% of guage range and I was more comfortble with this.

However the fleet guy is very experienced and if it is common it may just be cruiser idiosyncracy. To be sure hook another guage up and check the routine things mentioned previouslyby guzzi if there is any doubt.

Barry
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Reply By: disco driver - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 01:33

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 01:33
Hi All,
More years ago than I care to remember, I asked an auto engineer a similar question.
His reply was basically "If the needle is more or less half way on the scale that's near enough. It is not where the needle runs that you should be concerned about, it is when the needle is not where it usually is, that's a real cause for concern"
Makes sense to me but then I'm a landrover owner!!

Cheers
Disco
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Follow Up By: Member - Barry C (NT) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 01:43

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 01:43
Disco

Many moons ago as mechanic I learnt that what you describe above is a basic rule for temp guage with engine hot and thermostat operating, not oil pressure. Oil pressure varies all the time and guage should reflect this, but agree that if it aint doin what it "normally" does it is indicating a problem.

Barry
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:40

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:40
Barry is also correct but if the engine/motor is at normal operating conditions,ie running at reasonable revs and normal temp, my original point still applies to most OE (original Equipment) pressure gauges.

Idiot Oil Warning Lights only tell you that it's stuffed when they come on, and that is the voice of experience talking.
All my vehicles since then have had aux gauges (amps/volts, oil press, oil temp, tacho) fitted if I'm not happy with the OE gauges.

Cheers
Disco
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Reply By: wheeler - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:00

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:00
It is a very well known fact that the oil pressure sensor on the 100s is faulty on some vehicles. I just had mine replaced under warranty. Was reading very low. See your dealer he will know all about it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:37

Saturday, Mar 25, 2006 at 11:37
After we get our Cruiser back from dealer up here,I will never take it back to them-ever.
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