Air Compressor

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 21:58
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I did have a look at air compressors in the Archives and found heaps of info. But I do have one more question.
There is a shop here in Brisbane Site Link they sell lots of compressors and one of them is the Mega Grunt for $180 which got good feedback here. What I do wonder is that they say it produces 72l/m which is more than any of the $400 compressors do. Would that be right or a printing stuff-up??
I found there is $99 compressors too and I know you get what you pay for but I could buy two of them and still save money.
Plus I get the feeling that all the compressors are made in China anyway doesnt matter what price...............Very confusing.
Please help

cheers
Reiner
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Reply By: Brad, W.A. - Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 22:39

Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 22:39
Reiner,

I have a Bushranger Max Air, I paid $350 for it a a 4WD show 4 years ago, it is a fantasitic compressor and has given me no problems. It comes with a 5 year warranty, there are copy compressors of the Max Air, they look the same but that is as far as it goes. I think 4WD Monthy did a compressor comparison and the Max Air was the winner.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 05:01

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 05:01
Nothing...and i mean nothing.....comes close to the max air. I am so sorry i sold mine. Spend the money and get yourself one, its forever. Saves you carrying 2 of the cheaper ones when ever you go away.
Maybe I hould have bought 2 real cheap 4wd's and take them both when i go away..that way im sure id get back home with one of them ay...sheesh !!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:30

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:30
Ditto - I had a cheap one - lasted 12 months.. Max Air now, very quick, but the 5 year warranty was what sold me. I'll cope if it fails now, cos I know I won't have to fork out again for at least 5 years.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:04

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:04
Agreed - I had a copy and it lasted about 8 months before it wouldn't pump any more than 30 pounds.

I've now had the genuine article for a year or so and am very impressed so far.
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Follow Up By: cackles - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:17

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:17
got a max-air from BCF on special for $199, that was last december and have seen that special advertised again since then.

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Follow Up By: drifta - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:22

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:22
Another happy customer here as well tried the mega grunter, lasted 6 months took it back got it replaced, 3 months this time now it's in the bin. I bought a Max Air and have had 3 years with no problems it's twice as fast as my ARB compressor. Returning things might be easy but think where you might be when it brakes down.
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Reply By: Sarg - Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 22:42

Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 22:42
Mega Grunt ? is that the same as the Bush Pig ? If so ,I've had one for a while now & does the job ok on both my 31/10.5 s & 33/12.5 s. Had a wire come off of a dodgy solder joint once , but repaired & upgraded the elect. connections & no problems since. It does get a bit warm after doing the 33 s from 18 to 42 psi but it has never cut out. Can,t quote the output but it takes a can to do the 4 31 s from 18 to 32 psi
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 23:50

Wednesday, Mar 29, 2006 at 23:50
The 72l/minute they claim is only at atmospheric pressure. In other words while it's blowin in the wind.

When you're up to 38psi in the fourth tyre it will not be pumping 72l per minute. As stated above, the copy of the MAX AIR is exactly that....a copy.

I bought a copy and am very dissapointed. I am now saving to get a MAX AIR and I can hardly wait.

I have had 3 compressors so far and I thought I had done the right thing buying one of the coppied type for $140.00 on sale, after a good mate of mine forked out $350.00 for the MAX AIR, which at the time I thought was a lot for a compressor.

Having seen it in action quite a few times, I now know I shoulda got the real deal.
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Follow Up By: Muzzgit (WA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 00:05

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 00:05
Another thing. You say you could buy 2 and still save money!

Are you thinking of running 2 compressors at once?

MAN.... it's a hassle..... running from one to the other, keeping up with which pump goes where, on, off, on, off, on again, off again, no it's not quite enough, a bit more, still not enough, bugger, this ones too high, ahh bleep , this is too hard, I think I'll just have another beer and keep an eye on one pump at a time.

Do you get the feeling maybe I've tried it ?????
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 00:19

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 00:19
Wonder if you could make up a little manifold so both compressors went into one manifold and had one outlet - maybe a TEE piece would achieve the same result. If you wired up the compressors with Heavy relays relays and controlled by a single switch - wonder how it would go pumping one tyre at a time to save all the running around.

Tim
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:52

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:52
Save the extra and go for a reputable brand. I bought an OX, paid $400 for it, back when people were still making up their minds about Max Air. Now I know I could have saved $50 by buying Max..... never mind!!!

The thing is a good quality unit won't (shouldn't) let you down..... my first compressor was a cheapie and it disappeared in a cloud of blue smoke miles from anywhere......
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:11

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:11
I've got both.......

Have had the MaxAir for about 3 years and it's great. It's hard wired and plumbed throughout my Patrol with 2 receiver tanks. Runs air horns, air locker and has 2 outlets (front and rear) for attaching hoses for tyre inflation.

I also bought a mega grunt as a back up, but haven't used it in anger yet. I initially tried to change the fittings over to match the Ryco system I have on all my air tools etc, but the thread is not the same (not sure what size thread it is, but it ain't 1/4bsp!!!!). I have run it just as a trial and it doesn't "sound" as solid as the max-air. Also, the aligator clips seem to be low quality compared to the ones that were on the Maxair (which I've cut off of course).

My advice would be to get the MaxAir as your main compressor and a mega grunt if you want a back up.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: les go - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 16:31

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 16:31
Hi Roachie
Have just bought the same unit ,but having a hell of a time trying to find the same fittings so a can make extra line & hoses suitable for my needs may be u can let me know where did u find the quick connect fittings.
thanks for any info cheers Skip (nsw)
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 16:54

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 16:54
Skip,
You can usually pick-up brass fittings of various types at engineering type places or hose places like ENZED etc. There are many brands of fittings around and I'm not sure what type it is that is fitted to the MegaGrunt.
I use Ryco brass fittings on my other gear....this is one of the most common type and is the one I have most often seen in workshops etc.

As for the plumbing I've done on my vehicle, I have used 6mm plastic hose with Festo type fittings (push-in). These can give you heartache after a few years as they start to leak small amounts of air which is bloody hard to find. I recently bought some grouse-looking steel joiners (mostly "T" pieces) from Snake Racing www.snakeracing.com.au (bugga ....that was sposed to come up as a hyper link!!!!!!!!!!!).

Hope this helps

Roachie
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Follow Up By: les go - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 18:20

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 18:20
Thanks Roachie
Any help is great will try enzed for the same fitting cya a long the track one day
skip
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 08:55

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 08:55
Four years ago I bought a Blue Tongue 3 for about $480, I think. It was a big mindset to change from the el-cheapo compressors and to spend such a lot of money on such a small item. But it has worked flawlessly over the years and does its job regularly. I have never checked just how low it takes to pump a tyre up from flat but it doesn't matter as there is only a minimal difference it the time it takes between all the brands. As you mentioned and as others have said "You pay peanuts, you get monkeys" LOL. I would go for a more expensive brand if you are going to do a fair amount of inflating.

Blue Tongue is made by Thomas(USA) but most likely outsourced to China. Who knows?

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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:12

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:12
Hi Willem

You can be lucky and unlucky I guess, my B Tongue 3 died after 2yrs and developed
a leaky valve before it did. While I have an ARB (with a leaky seal) for the lockers
I picked up one of the clones.

At $89 from Big-W stores and with its 72lt , it is great, and easily outpumps others. On another site several
others got'em as well a year ago and no negative reports yet.

Hose and a couple of internals not as good as Max-air but I can buy another
235/85/16 for the price difference.

Most faults happen on opening and with this supermarket stuff its nice to just walk back in within a year with your reciept and exchange no questions asked.

With the B Tongue the dealer etc was to far away and cost of parts was such that its was just easy to try this particular cheapie.

But as per a previous post I always advocate that you have a backup plan.
In case of any failure and in this case its the good old air transfer hose for
$25.

Robin Miller
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Reply By: Raymond from Wanderin 4 Wheelers - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:34

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 15:34
Hi Reiner
I also have the Big W one for $89 and it is great, my son has had his for several years and not a problem with it other than when blowing up 8 tires the hose melted at the compressor end, just cut the hose and put it back together works well, recons he has years before the hose get short
Ray
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:20

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:20
Thanks for all your thoughts , I went to Super cheap and bought the one they have which was reduced from $179 to $149.
If it blows up I buy a good one but we dont used it enough to fork out $400 plus for one.
I know you get what you pay for but I bought some real cheap nailguns lately and they just keep nailing away just like Senco or other tools with a 4times the price tag.
It just bugs me that we might be paying top dollars for the same product with a different sticker on it.
The Chinese might be on the right track here......

cheers
Reiner
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:49

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:49
Hi Reiner G (QLD) 4124
It was once said that "The bitterness of poor quality lasts long after the sweetness of price is forgotten" Good luck with your compressor. I hope it gives you good service.
On Patrol.
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:57

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 19:57
I will let you know when it blows up cross my heart :-) I think I feel better that way.......If I had paid $480 I would allways wondered if the cheap on would have done the same job. But if this one blows and go and buy a good one smiling
cheers
Reiner
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Follow Up By: junior - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 21:32

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 21:32
Hi Reiner- just to let you and everyone else know- they're not the same compressor with different stickers- they ARE cloned chinese copies, and definately NOT of the same quality in construction- especially the rings on the copies flog out really quick and then you've got poor output.
The "MaxAir" brand in Australia is actually a VIAIR compressor, made in USA- talk to any air suspension specialist, and every one of them will tell you all day- VIAIR make the very finest 12volt compressors IN THE WORLD. Try these links-

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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 21:47

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 21:47
That I and lots of others feel the way we feel is coursed by greedy companies who get there products made in China and name them with a quality brand name and make a fortune doing so. I think it will bite them in the ass in the end. There is companies who refuse to go to China and get their own prducts copied.
As i said before I bought Senco copy nailguns and they work just as well as a real senco on but for the quarter price tag.
I'm sure the super cheap compressor will not last as long as the good quality one but at 25% of the cost it might last 25% or the life of the good ones.
I'm still paying $2 per tyre pump up?!?!?!
We will see.

cheers
Reiner
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