Something different...

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:49
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... although, we have seen the likes of Sarich, come and go...

A car that runs on air...

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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:16

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:16
Now wouldn't a large compressed air tank be fun in an accident!
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Follow Up By: Joe King - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:46

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:46
Youre not wrong, it would be like having a large tank of combustable liquid with you..... wait a minute!!! lol
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Follow Up By: Member - RockyOne - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:48

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:48
I'd rather that than having that "red dot" in the middle of my rego plate..Gas!MPG:7!
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 13:06

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 13:06
Yeah but LPG is not under that much pressure so unless you spark it off you can crack a tank without a large bang - ever seen a diving cylinder fail a hydrostatic test at 200 atmospheres? Just a loud crack as the water inside is essentially non compressible.

With air, it will immediately expand to its normal volume at 15 PSI - *BANG*

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:49

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:49
It was on the TV the other night.
Used in a wharehouse.
Ran for a few hours on only a small amount of air.

If an internal combuston engine is only 30 to 50% effecient, this must be better for local use.

Not so sure about taking it over the Simpson though, you would need big lungs for refueling!
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 08:16

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 08:16
There were 2 inventors one in Italy and one in Oz.

I also saw it on the tele. They were saying tanks were carbon fibre and would hold enough for 200K. Also 3 to 4 minute fill from a compressed air facility or a lot longer by way of an onboard compressor.

Looked OK for local commuting. Their argument was a this, a fill for compressed air was about 20% of the cost of fossil fuels. But being the doubter I am I suspect a Howard compressed air tax will make that about line ball.

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:22

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:22
if these things ever get on the road we can all expect to pay for air to pump up the tyres
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:29

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:29
Nah we'll all have supe duper compressors at home. Look at it this way we can have discussions about engel and weaco compressors instead. You know how it'l go, my engel will recharge my toyo air tank in 3 minutes and I get 211.23489 K out of one tank of air. That's hopeless mate my Weaco compressor does it in 2.51 minutes and I get 212 K out of that. That BS mate unless your running a fitch and down hill with a tail wind.

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Reply By: revhead307 - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:45

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 09:45
fascinating.

We all know how fast air tools will run down an air tank when the compressors not switched on..

So how big and what pressure does its air tank need to be to get you 50kms???

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Reply By: Nebster - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:20

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:20
Very interesting Wolfie, there are some smart buggers out there

I saw a similar one on the new inventors the Rotary Piston Engine by Angelo Di Pietro I think their were demonstration on the show was using it on a forklift in a warehouse environment and they believe has greater application in powering stationary machines like industrial pumps in the petrochemical and mining industries

And the other one was EARS (Exhausted Air Recycling System) by Chris Bosua

Maybe the 2 should get together, then we could go bush a bicycle pump ;P

Might not see it in our lifetime but you have to plant seed before something can grow.

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:25

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:25
might make a good supercharger too
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:56

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:56
When I saw that EARs thing demonstrated I was wondering about the claimed increase in efficiency. The way I understand air tools is their power comes from the pressure difference between input and exhaust.
Now, if one holds the exhaust at a higher pressure then there ought to be less pressure difference available to extract power for the tool from.
I'm assuming that this is a closed system, once pressurised no new air is admitted to the tank and the air just circulates between tank, compressor and tool.

So, tell me what I am missing there.

Klaus
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 13:00

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 13:00
And then you can fit a hiclone and really get some mileage!

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Reply By: disco driver - Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:10

Thursday, Mar 30, 2006 at 14:10
Hi All,
Wouldn't it be a bugger if your compressor dies miles away from anywhere.
Imagine hand pumping it up to get home!
You'd be absolutely stuffed.

Second thought
Why not just point the nozzle to the rear and open it up
Should go like a rocket......literally
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