Landcruiser IFS and Water Warning
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 13:25
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Andrew
I have a turbo diesel landcruiser which damaged the fan and radiator to the tune of $1400. I was crossing the upper reaches of the
Murray River at
Tom Groggin in about 500mm (20 inches) of water and the fan blades "propellored" forwards and have broken off and also damaged the radiator. Could it be that the design of the independent front
suspension, now stardard on most landcruisers, results in greater inflow of water though the radiator during water crossings?
I have had discussions with Toyota regarding the situation and they say that it is not a manufacturing fault so they have no responsibility to repair it. I wonder if the design of the bash plate underneath the independent front end, that is 28cm off the ground, and angles down at around 45 degrees near the back edge, causes a wave to form at the front of the radiator and then enter the engine bay. I put this to Toyota and as of yet a response has not been forthcoming other than it is "not due to a manufacturing defect" and that the vehicle is "not a boat". I would have thought that with a wading depth of 700mm I would have been safe, as 700mm approximates the mid point of the fan from the ground.
I wonder if the new V8 IFS Landcruisers will suffer the same fate as I imagine their underbody is very similar in design. Toyota suggested they will review the situation if I get an engineering report. What options do I have for repair and reports? - I am loathe to spend $1400 ( approx fan $250 and radiator $900 plus fitting) if I could suffer the same fate again.
Reply By: Will - Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 13:56
Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 13:56
Andrew,
All vehicles are prone to this specially if the weather is hot and the fan was engaged at the time, there was a recent report on a Discovery series 2 with the same problem and I heard of another IFS diesel cruiser with the same problem.
The other thing that plays a part on this is how close are the blades to the readiator core, all blades will bend forward if they come in contact with water while engaged and turning but those closer to the rad core will touch when the ones further away wont.
I have a GU 4.2 diesel and it does not suffer from this, compare the distance and see.
Other people made up a clip to hold the fan while on crossings....
Good luck with Toyota on the repair.... I don't like your chances.
Will
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