replacing globe of spotties

Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 13:08
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I have a pair of Cibie Oscars (spare) in the garage. I replaced them a while back as I was a bit dissapointed with them. Over the past few weeks I have replaced the globes on my Ford telstar with great success.
So I pulled apart the spotties and found that they have standard H1 100W globes. Can I put 130W globes in there? The extra heat would be my concern.

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Reply By: revhead307 - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 13:44

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 13:44
The larger SUPER Oscars come out standard with a good quality 55W Globe.

Wattage is not the be all and end all of Globes as the type of Gas used and quality can vary between similar looking 100W globes.

I wouldnt think there would be any problem with running 130W globes in your Oscars. I Used to run them in my Narva's which were plastic body with no dramas.

You may be better off qetting a good quality set of globes rather than just bumping up the wattage. There are a few brands of Plus 50% style globes that run at say 55 or 60 W and give equivalent light to 100W. or just a decent pair of 100w ones.

This helps keep the total amp requirement of total accessories down or you will be burning up 20amps just running your 130W spotties.


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Follow Up By: Gossy - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:52

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:52
yer good point. I have the IPF sports on at the moment with a 60W globe and they give off a better light. I was thinking of getting the Phillips range of lights or the "plus 50". I think either one would be an improvement.
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 13:52

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 13:52

The extra heat may discolour or flake off the reflective backing after a while.

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Reply By: signman - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:02

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:02
Are ya running the Cibies with a relay and dedicated (good size cable) wiring loom??I've been using Oscars (and Super Oscars) for many years with 100w H1 globes and have never been disappointed with them. Have used Hella/Lightforce/PIAA/Marchall etc on other vehicles and still think the Oscars (the 'drive light' lens) give good performance.
And I do use drive lights in extreme conditions- rallying & Safaris.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:56

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 14:56
Installed with the cabling which came with them. I was very impressed with the globe upgrade I have done to the headlights of my GQ patrol and my ford. It could be that the lens and reflector are being let down by the standard globes (which is probably the case which is why I want to get them up and running again). I think a good globe replacement will do the trick.

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Reply By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:02

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:02

Recently when purchasing a set of ADR approved replacement H4 globes I noted that it was recommended that the globes be replaced about every 50,000klm ( on the packet, Phillips brand).

The manner in which Halogen globes work would indicate that they would loose intensity over a period of usage.

As suggested and as you have noticed with your headlight globe replacement/upgrade, all that may be needed is a quality ADR approved replacment globe/s.


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Follow Up By: Gossy - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:22

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 16:22
When I got the GQ a few years back I could not believe how bad the lighting was. I even commented to the wife how it's funny how all these rules and regulations are in place for safety but they allow lighting to be that bad !
Not sure if the lighting was always that bad or if just the globe was the original and dieing.
Being a fixed globe I had to upgrade the relector unit also. The change was just amazing. Very white and great distance. It could also be a factor that the newer globes burn different gasses so are just brighter in general because of new technology.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 19:27

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 19:27
I wonder how they would calculate the number of 'lights on' kilometres to equate light usage to distance travelled..........too many variables for a mathematical solution so I guess they must assume a %age of time on the road equals X lights on I'm starting to ramble.......
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:21

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 17:21
I run super oscars, and H1 100 watt bulbs.
Did try 130w, but find good quality 100w bulbs about as good and cheaper to buy and easier to source for the marginal difference.

Also originally came with 55watt (but that was in 76 when I bought them for rallying) and I think the standard wiring is a bit light. Rewired them with heavier wiring to the bulb and also the internal earth. Reflectors still looks OK.

If I want more light, I think I would go for a 3rd spot rather than more wattage.
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