Bilstein shocks

Submitted: Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:15
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A set of Bilsteins in my 03 TD cruiser have done 60 k klms and are so worn they can't be rebuilt. I have just replaced them with OE shocks for $207 as opposed to $940 for 4 more Billys. The OEs have 12 month warranty so I figure the klms I do I can replace them nearly 5 times for the cost of a new set of Billys. If Toyota can build and market 4 shocks for $200 how can the aftermarket justify the high cost. Billys are good but not 5 times better and throw away after 60k klms when they are advertised as rebuildable. Nothing seems to be built to last these days.
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Rob Berrill
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Reply By: Steve - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:20

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:20
you've just made my decision for me. Koni it is.

you got 4 OME shocks for $207?
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Follow Up By: Billowaggi - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:53

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:53
I think he means Original Equipment i.e. Genuine Toyota.
Regards Ken.
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Reply By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:37

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 21:37
Rob

I find shocks on a well used and loaded 4x4 last between 40 and 60 thousand k. Constant corrugations really give them a hard time.

Perhaps a set of gas munro's (also readily available in more remote areas) and replace every 40,000k. I run OME on my Nissan. I looked at Koni's but I can purchase 2 for the price of 1 so being rebuildable was not really an issue.

Regards

Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 22:11

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 22:11
Perhaps the factory (genuine part) are oil filled and single acting. I replaced my OE nissan shocks because they faded quickly when stressed or (the rear set) towing.

Regards

Paul
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 22:03

Monday, Apr 03, 2006 at 22:03
Rob $940 sounds a bit high for Biliy's as was recently quoted $800 for a 105 series but suppose there are new rubbers & fitting costs in there as well.
Although the Toyota shock is cheap I can't see how it could possibly control the rebound of your truck properly as no doubt you have upgraded springs & taking into concideration where you drive it with the loads you'd need to carry.
I just took my Koni's off to be rebuilt after about 250,000 KM (10 years old fitted to 3 separate Cruisers) & when I fitted the OE shocks for the interim I was amazed how poorly they handled despite being almost new.
Friends with Bilstiens are all having good runs with no one reporting any premature failure like yours. From what I've seen the Billy's are probably one of the best shocks for improving handling (other than getting big $ race shocks) but for long life the Koni twin tube adjustable are hard to go past.
Cheers Craig.....................
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 00:52

Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 00:52
Recently replaced the whole suspension on my 80 with OME, even though the old OME shocks were OK (150K, now spares). I was told that the way I use the vehicle, (and it certainly wouldnt see a fraction as much rough stuff as yours) I was lucky to get 8 years out of a set of OE springs !
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:49

Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:49
Was it the Heasmans service department that said they are too buggered to rebuild or someone in between ? Re the cheapies - the economics might be right but its not much good if the fail mid trip - if my factory originals are anything to go by, they seem half the weight of the aftermarket twin tube gas jobs that are commonly available - I assume the extra weight comes from thicker tube walls etc.
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 21:52

Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 21:52
I have always been a believer of OE Toyota shocks.
They are a good product but do struggle a bit with HD springs. I still have OE shocks in my Prado in the rear with medium springs and they are fine with Coilrites fitted. I do have the Bilsteins in the front.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 22:58

Tuesday, Apr 04, 2006 at 22:58
On desert trips, I often see aftermarket shocks fail. Don't often see factory Toyota shocks fail. They are Japanese made Tokico - bargain at the price.
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