Land Rover Defender TD5

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 16:45
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Does anyone have personal experience yet with the Td5? I've had a good run with my 300Tdi Discovery over the last 5 years, but would like more room and a bit more power.
And a body which won't look so bad with a few scratches!
I've checked with ARB and Rover tech in Perth and they hold them in high regard.
None of the usual far fetched rubbish from the rabid anti LR brigade please.
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Reply By: Phil P - Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 17:19

Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 17:19
Hi Alan,

A guy at work has the Defender Extreme (2000 Model) and he is extremely satisfied with this car. The only problem he had was with the starter motor (he actually destroyed it in the mud) and Land Rover Assist fixed it without any issues.

Phil P

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Reply By: TonyY - Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 17:21

Thursday, Feb 06, 2003 at 17:21
Hi Alan,

I have had a 2002 Defender Td5 now for 14 months and 35000km. So far it has been absolutely brilliant. Bags more power and torque than my old 200Tdi Disco, and just as frugal. If I drive with a light foot I can get 9.5L/100km, however I enjoy using the accelerator and usually average 10.5. The motor now feels as though it is beginning to loosen up and just gets better all the time.

I have done a fair amount of long distance driving and even with the relatively low gearing of the Defender it will sit quite happily on 110kmh, and will pull strongly past 130 for overtaking if you put the boot in. Off road it will tonk along at idle in low range. Also great going up hills. With the Disco I used to have to get a run up for Welshpol hill and keep the foot flat to the floor to maintain speed in 4th gear. The Td5 will just cruise up in 5th.

I know Kevin from Rover Tech and respect his opinion highly.

Cheers Tony.
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Reply By: lindsay - Friday, Feb 07, 2003 at 13:11

Friday, Feb 07, 2003 at 13:11
I have had a td5 defender for two years been up the canning , Gibb R.Road Kalumnburu , Mitchell falls Plenty Central Aust. No problems exept front coils ,put heavy duty ones in wiring loom to an abs sensor 78,clicks good economy in rough, Wiluna - well 23 via calvert range 100 litres./ Thump it and consumption goes up. It suits us, will buy another one. Need to drive them differently most of all when starting off.
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Reply By: Alan H - Friday, Feb 07, 2003 at 16:33

Friday, Feb 07, 2003 at 16:33
Thanks Tony, Phil and Lyndsay. You've made my mind up for me.
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Reply By: Mac - Saturday, Feb 08, 2003 at 16:35

Saturday, Feb 08, 2003 at 16:35
G'day Alan,
I purchased the Extreme TD5 in November 02, and find it a most relyable and fun vehicle to drive. I have covered 12k in the last three months with no problems or faults.
Very capable off and on road
Fuel consumption is excellent, and for a change it even goes when you give it a bit of boot.

All the best,

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Reply By: Dane - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 19:39

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 19:39
G'day Alan,

Seems you've already made up your mind but I'll ad my 2c worth as well. I just traded my '98 v8 disco for a 12 mth old but as new '02 extreme 2 months ago. Have clocked up 6000 k's in that time so plenty of time to get used to it. No probs to date but then the disco led a tough life and ran for 5 years and 130k's without fault too.

Firstly economy is pretty static at 10.5 - 11.5 l/100k irrespective of driving. doesnt matter if low range, peak hr traffic or 110k's on the highway. Prob not quite as good as a tdi but very close. The decision for me was between a td5 disco or extreme. The xtreme already has a lot of the mods as standard over the disco, bullbar, larger tyres, uprated suspension etc. ie. much better value & much better resale ... if i ever sell it. The disco was obviously a lot quieter but the xtreme is certainly fine. Mine is my daily commuter and weekend toy. Much quieter than many tdi defenders i've been in.

Gearing is fairly short and 3000 rpm equates to about 120k's so thinking of changing high ratio to disco spec or fitting overdrive at some time in the future. Motor is very smooth up to this point. Off road it walks over ground in high 1st that i would have been in low range in the disco. Needless to say in low range its amazing. Traction control very rarely kicks in maybe due to the better wheel travel. Very low rpm torque is nothing like the v8 but once you get on boost the td5 will hold 5th far more comfortably than the v8 ever did.

Only negatives are the fuel tank is too small and the new models with colour coded roof look great but lacking the insulation of the disco they get bloody hot. Other than that the front springs are also not up to the job when you put a winch on the bar. As for space, no comparison with the disco so long as your rear seat passengers arent too big. Some of the load space is gained by the increased length, some by the lack of rear legroom.

Other tip is to ask the dealer to replace the useless clock with a nice matched td5 tacho instead. Not many dealers in melb seemed aware of this option.

cheers and enjoy


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Follow Up By: Alan H - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 22:26

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003 at 22:26
Thanks Dane and everybody else.
Seems there's quite a few well satisfied Td5 Defenders owners out there. Maybe LR products will start getting a better rep. in the not too distant future.
I was talking to a dealer in Perth today and he certainly never mentioned replacing the clock with a rev counter............. maybe he doesn't know it can be done, or just forgot.
He did mention the colour coded roofs but as I want a white one that won't matter. I also mentioned the wheel flares being white and they also come colour coded. Cheaper and easier I expect.
I may wait a few weeks not only to sell my Discovery privately because of the dealers disgraceful (and insulting) trade in values, but because the new model supposedly coming soon may be the cause of dealers discounting Defenders to move them off the floor. We live in hopes.
You and others have found there's a few things you'll change over time and I suspect I'll be the same as I tow a 1.5 tonne van quiet often, but having more power will certainly help there.
Now I've got to start cleaning the Discovery and stripping out the 2 way and compressor before I advertise.
I'll give you all a wave on the road.
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