buying a used 4wd vehicle
Submitted: Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:39
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Hi!
we're about to buy our first 4wd vehicle a 'Troopy' for an extended lap around Australia.We decided to spend about $15.000-$25.000.I've been searching the net and trading magazines and like to know if there is a certain mileage and age above which you wouldn't recommend buying such a vehicle.For example most of the advertized cars got 15.0000 kilometers or more on the clock and are early to mid 90's models. I've gathered that much these "troopies" are sturdy and lasting makes but is it still realistic to assume that it can manage a good few years of hard service without encountering major problems? I might sound absolutely beginner and i can assure you all i'm not even that but we want to get started.Thank you all! sz
Reply By: TerraFirma - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:08
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:08
Troopy diesels are good reliable vehicles. Grag yourself a trusted mechanic and look for one that's been looked after. 150,000 kms isn't anything for a
well maintained model.
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Follow Up By: boogyman - Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 20:34
Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 20:34
so true ... my mother in law has 450,000 on her troopie and nothin wrong with engine ... just watch the rust...
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:35
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:35
The big change in troopies happened later in 1999 when they went from 75series to 78series.
Changes included coil spring front end and longer rear leaf springs, so they had a better ride. Worth getting the later series if its within your price range.
The turbo diesels came out in 2002 and you'd be spending above $35k for one of those.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:48
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:48
this is a cut and paste of a cut and pase i have done for simular questions
hzj troopy mid to late 90s is they go for that budget, cant stress enough avoid the ex miners below is a cut and paste from a previos reply of
mine
engines are good but can crack heads if overheated. always pays to get them up to operating temp and remove the radiator cap (carefully ) and look for bubbles. get it up to highway speed then take tour foot of the load pedal and let it coast down to 40kph - make sure it doesnt jump out of fith. Look for overdone detailing it could be covering up an EX MINER. poke your fingers in the chassis holes and see if the chasis is full of mud. taste the mud/dust if it tastes salty it is a MINER. prob will use around 13l per100k where a petrol will use around 5l per100k more - do the math (if you can find one) I have just bought an 80 with 200k and it goes just fine. Other thing is just drive it no 2 1hz seem to go the same make sure this one has plenty of go (for a 1hz anyway) Turboeing a 1hz is not recomended as they are not built for it (toyota make significant mods to their turbo motors they are not just the same motor with a turbo attached). Give it a flat out run - anything above 1/2 on the temp gauge spells a problem somewhere. Get the brakes checked they can be chewed out if run in muddy conditions and are often are an unEXpected cost at 1st sevice (if they need work it is a good tool to bargain the price down). After the flat out run leave it idling for 5 min then crawl under liooking for leaks that were steam cleaned (transfer case is a good place to look as are diffs). Take it onto dirt make sure it engages low range easily then do 2 circles on full lock each way listen for the cv joints clicking and any other untoward noises.
Check accesories (where fitted work)
check springs and hangers for cracks.
check shockers after your drive making sure they dont leak (further testing is hard on leaf sprung vehicles) jack up front wheels one at a time checking for play in steering/bearings.
check behind the wheels the "ball" the wheel ataches to should be dry or just a light film of grease leaking oil from here is EXpensive.
I have driven plenty of utes of this vintage (same driveline etc) they are very tough and reliable but can break in the suspension/brakes front end areas when used for mining rest is
rock solid even when used for mining
I have driven
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Reply By: Member - TPM (SA) - Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 20:24
Friday, Apr 07, 2006 at 20:24
Do the Transfer case hi and low
test. Put it in gear Hi and low and surge it forward ( blip the throttle ) in 1st and reverse to see if the lever jumps out.
Some that have had a PTO winch or other accessories removed and installed on a change over vehicle can be very worn.
Its a bit late to find this out when bogged.
Get the mechanic to take off the timing belt cover and
check the belt age. Some people used to press the reset button on the early 90s on the dash.
If this belt fails catastrophic engine damage will occur.
Look under the rubber mats in the back behind the drivers seats, sand will get trapped in bolt low spots this will indicate beach use.
Put your hand down into the jack spot inside the rear body near LH rear door.
In the bottom of the guard you will find dust/mud which will indicate alot of dirt driving, it gets sucked in through the air vent on the outside rear guard.
Also
check the water/dust drain on the bottom of the airfliter, its a small bowl held on by clips. Its surprising how many mechanics dont
check this. Also a good indicator of conditions driven.
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Follow Up By: V6 PATROL - Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 06:24
Saturday, Apr 08, 2006 at 06:24
hey hows it going if interested Iam in
brisbane have a guy at work selling his fathers troopy first impresions very tidy and clean if you like will get a number for you .
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