bull bars
Submitted: Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:06
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jojo
Hi Everyone,
I have a 79 series with an aluminium bull bar and am very concerned about go north and hitting a roo. What i wanted to ask the the general consensus was, i want to purchase a steel bar and wanted to know what is the main difference between the ARB bars and the Toyota bars that we can pick up for $500.00.
Is the Toyota bar strong enough to with stand hitting a roo?
Reply By: Exploder - Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:31
Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:31
The ARB Bars are stronger I think.
As for hitting a roo with an Alloy bar, won’t be a problem you will just most likely need to replace it. We have hit a Cow with an alloy bar, the impact speed was around 90Km/h and we drove the Patrol another 2000K’s
home before the bar was replaced.
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Follow Up By: Joe King - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 07:36
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 07:36
I hit 2, 4' roos at once passing a truck at 120k's in my TD80, alloy bar, no drama's, between
clermont & charters towers, where some big roo's are....
JK
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Reply By: Member - Paul P (Bris) - Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:43
Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:43
Greetings
I agree with exploders comments re alloy bull bar. I run an alloy BB on my Nissan. If you are travelling during daylight hours Roo's should not be a major worry. (You can see them better)
Regards
Paul
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Reply By: MATT.D(WA) - Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:49
Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 20:49
jojo,
Not all alloy bars are as weak as people make out. I hit numerous roos when I was living up north in my old Jackaroo without any damage and most hits were at highway speeds(80-110) and I had an alloy bar. It depends on the type of alloy bar.
As for the steel bars I can't comment but I believe the ARB ones are the one to go for judging by previous comments on this
forum. Why not just keep the alloy bar on the cruiser and if it gets damaged let the insurance company pay for most of the new bar that you want.
Hope this helps,
Matt.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 21:38
Monday, Apr 10, 2006 at 21:38
The Toyota 79series bar is made by ARB and is good quality and is plenty strong enough. Its design is a cross between the two bars offered by ARB, and will take a winch, up to 9500lb I believe. It lacks aerial mounting points, but I don't put aerials on the bullbar anyway.
The ARB commercial bar is very basic, and looks a bit average. I wouldn't get one.
The deluxe bar offered by ARB is a very nice piece of gear. It will take a slightly bigger winch, and has nice highlift jack points, and very nice finish. But it costs a fair bit more.
I have the Toyota bar and think its fine. But like others say, your alloy bar is probably OK too.
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: ev700 - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:44
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:44
We opted for an alloy bar. We travel during daylight hours and avoid early dawn and twilight which are the worst times for animal strike.
There isn't much that will help if you hit a cow or horse at speed and during the dry times a lot of
farm animals graze around roads.
I wonder of the extra strength of a steel bar is worth the extra weight and if the extra strength if required would only serve to damage the chassis.
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Reply By: Member - Robert G (WA) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:41
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:41
I agree the comments re alloy bars. I have been in several collisions over the years with roos, sheep and emus in a number of vehicles (mostly work vehicles thank god) and I haven't ever had an issue with an alloy bar. As stated though, a steel bar has a significantly better chance of being able to be repaired and re-used. If you already have an allooy bar, spend your money on something else and get insurance to replace it later if the worst happens. There are also plenty of good qulaity bars around by many different companies so
shop around and
check out the features/specifications. If I were to replace my curremt bar work I would be looking foe something that can take a winch, has room for mounting of large
driving lights, has hi-lift jacking points and is of a high quality finsih and strong materials and mountings. ARB and TJM make good bars.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:08
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:08
I agree although I am a steel steel and more steel fan if it had a perfectly good alloy bar I would look at spending the cash on something else. If you do hit something and trash the bar insurance will mostly cover the fitting of a steel bar anyway
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Reply By: cuffs - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:19
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:19
It,s harder with a nudge bar,they move when you line them up. ( are we talking roo's or conservationists?)lol!
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Reply By: DesC - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 16:40
Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 16:40
CVT Mt Isa, Ring them.
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