Dead Hilux Engine. Replacements?

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 00:16
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Hi,

Recently purchased a Toyota Hilux Dual Cab Ute. Diesel 2.8L engine. Did about 230,000 kms.

On a drive down south, the engine has busted a big end bearing. Mechanic says its all over red rover, need to get a new engine. Devastated.

I'm looking for a replacement engine. What are some good options?

Reconditioned? 2nd Hand? Japanese Import? Benefits / negatives and costs?

I have little knowledge of motors etc, so any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

L
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Reply By: CHRIS UREN - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:15

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 08:15
Hi Lavz,

I can give you a great price on a brand new long engine for your Hilux.
Its a genuine Toyota engine, comes with a 12 month warranty and is very cost competetive against a rebuild.
Give me a call on (03)84552222 so we can discuss exactly what you require.

Regards
Chris at Lane Toyota Spare Parts
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Follow Up By: lavz - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:38

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:38
Hey chris and terra.

Thanks for the replies.

Chris where abouts are you? I'm in Perth. Is there someone I could speak to in Perth?

Terra:

Well it was 95 model, with 230,000 kms on it. So the engine dying wasn't expected, but not unreasonable.

Just one of those situations where all you can do is say "oh well...."

Basically what I want to know is, what is the best option for a engine now?

What are the differences between reconditioned and 2nd hand etc etc.

How much are new engines compared as well?

Cheers

L
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Follow Up By: CHRIS UREN - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:29

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:29
Hey Lavz

We are in Victoria, but even with freight added onto the price I reckon we'd still
beat any price on a new engine.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:28

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:28
Wow, she must have been neglected before you bought her or she was sabotaged by a Navara owner.! (LOL) Have you been quoted on a re-build and what would a new engine be worth..? Also as you have to replace the engine, could you use a Toyota 3.0TD in lieu of the 2.8.? I don't know about the differences..

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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:28

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 14:28
Fitting a 1kz-te (3.0TD) might be tricky as it's totally different to the 2.8 (3L) motor, the 5L (the non-turboed 3.0L engine) was similar, so maybe that's a go, but I think both of those engines have ECU's etc so that could get expensive, you'd have to buy the ECU and looms witih the engine and wire it all up... Might be better off just getting a 3L 2.8L motor and whacking a turbo on it.

But then again, as Davoe said, perhaps the old 3.8 buwick commodore motor might be the go $$$ wise. It's a common conversion, would probally chew the juice though.

What a bugger, it's your worst nightmare when buying a second handy, but it can happen to anyone anytime I spose. Probally been over reved to buggerey in it's previous life. Those 2.8's will normally go all day if the oil's changed reguarly and they are not reved to buggery.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:03

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:03
Commodore v6 swaps are very popular and it wouldnt be hard to find a place that can give you a drive in drive out price. Otherwise an import might be worth looking at
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 16:29

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 16:29
What about the Chev V8 6.5litre jobbie????
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Follow Up By: Wisey (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 17:04

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 17:04
Roachie

don't you think he should go the turbo jobbie? it might be lacking a bit, LOL.
He should prolly upgrade the gbox and diffs while it's in the shop!! Seriously LOL

Andy
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 17:27

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 17:27
The 2.8 motor has a history of doing this...because you are not up on motors, id suggest you get someone to transplant a commodore v6 or look around for a rolled lux...try www.pickles.com.au quick search vehicles damaged only
Otherwise you are up for heaps...your options if you know your way around a spanner would be 5m toyota 6 cylinder :)))) use the supra bell on your gearbox and bolt to the engine mounts....then get someone to wire it up..
or dunnydore v6 with adaptors worth 1500 alone.....(best option but expensive if you ask me) or new motor, and ship to mechanic.....if you want japanese preloved, there are heaps of turbo 2.4's from the bundy/surf brigade that will bolt in easily too...
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Reply By: lavz - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 18:03

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 18:03
Thanks for the advice guys. Appreciate it.

Yeah its a bugger all right.

Does anyone know anywhere good in Perth that will help me out? Somewhere I can take it and they pretty much do it all?

Cheers

L
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Follow Up By: waynet - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 22:10

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 at 22:10
Hi lavz
Sorry to hear about your engine problems. I have just replaced my old 2L (2.4litre) motor with a 5L (3litre non electronic injector pump) and am very happy with the conversion, I still have to fit the turbo which should make it even better. Because you have a 3L (2.8litre) the conversion is easy. The motor will bolt up to the bellhousing, use the 5L flywheel, clutch, and viscous hub and fan, use your own alternator, starter motor, air conditioning compressor, power steering pump, engine mounts, and the sump and oil pickup and dipstick from the 3L. If you are serious about going off-road stay away from the V6/V8 conversions, they love petrol and the Hilux drivetrain does not stand up to them too well.
If you are in Perth have a talk to Kim at Just Toyota in O'Connor, I have found him to be very helpful.
Happy camping
Wayne
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Follow Up By: lavz - Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:18

Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:18
Hey wayne.

Thanks heaps for the contact info.

If I was to take the car as is, buy the motor any engine, say the one you suggest, and pay for them to install it..... what sort of price am I looking at?

Basically I want to drive it in, come back a little while later, hand in the cash and drive it out...

I'm too busy to do it myself and don't have the time to learn how to do it.

Thanks again.

L
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Follow Up By: waynet - Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 21:23

Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 21:23
Hi lavz
Give TLC in O'Connor a call, I am sure they could help you out, they are very good to deal with and only work on Toyota 4wd's, and they are not far from Just Toyota. Expect to pay about $800 to $1000 for a drive in/drive out change over plus the cost of parts. Try to stay away from the japanese reject/import motors as sometimes they are not idenical to the motors fitted to australian models. I do not know which throttle cable you have but it should fit, I had to use a cable off a petrol model. Also, it may be easier to use the inlet manifold off the 3L motor as this will match your air cleaner pipe, but this depends on whether you intend fitting a turbo. If I can be of any more help please contact me.
Cheers
Happy camping
Wayne
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Follow Up By: lavz - Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 23:57

Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 23:57
Hi wayne.

Thanks, I really appreciate all your help.

Do you have an email I can reach you on?

If you'd prefer, my email is lavz@iinet.net.au.

I'd just like to get a bit more of an idea of what the deal is.

Cheers

L
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Reply By: lavz - Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:19

Wednesday, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:19
Dam.

Didn't win OzLotto tonight.... ;)

L
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